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> Hey paint and body guys, have a look at this, and tell me what you think.....
URY914
post Sep 15 2009, 08:10 PM
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This started as a paint bubble and grew to about 2" in diameter than it cracked and opened up.



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post Sep 18 2009, 12:45 PM
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I trust Rick's advice and ScottyB....two guys that make/made a living doing paint and body work.

I dont use rust treatment..tried all of them, none of them work with the current formulations of paint etc.
Never use POR 15 under topcoat paint surfaces...its made for frames...not hoods.

Just go back old school. Sand blast it, and start from there.

I use a sandblaster to ensure that all the pits are rust free....a wire brush does not do it, it just cleans the high spots.

Rent/buy/borrow a sand blaster...( I have a speedblaster...its awesome)

Clean all the rust, then put either a decent etching primer down, or an epoxy primer. Etching works easier and its alot cheaper...its sold by the rattle can at most decent paint stores.

Buy the skim coat bondo...its sprayable...so its really thin.
You dont need to spray it....but you can put it on really thin..use it like an off color coat to find the high spots by sanding till you expose all the high spots and low spots...keep repeating and ensure you have etching primer on any newly exposed bare metal.

Then spray a sealer on it..again, sold in rattle can form.
then paint it...otherwise the paint can look kinda splotchy in the sunlight if you have bondo in one place and not in another...
Its just a primer/sealer...goes over all the bodywork...then gets sanded to 400-600 grit wet....

Should last longer than the rest of the paint on the car...lol

One more thing...go find a decent auto paint store.
Talk to them about the product lines they use with your long term plans in mind.
This painting stuff is very complex chemistry and you really need to stick with one vendor from primer to clear coat...
Pro guys can probably swap certain favorite products, but guys like us, who are not trained in multiple brands are much wiser to stick with one brand (and one product line within that brand)

Base coat/clear coat is more forgiving and easier to fix than single stage systems.

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URY914   Hey paint and body guys, have a look at this   Sep 15 2009, 08:10 PM
URY914   I decided to open up the wound and see if it was t...   Sep 15 2009, 08:12 PM
URY914   The paint peeled off like the icing on a cake...   Sep 15 2009, 08:14 PM
URY914   Finally I get down to the real problem, 3rd degree...   Sep 15 2009, 08:15 PM
URY914   I clean it up with a wire brush on a grinder and g...   Sep 15 2009, 08:17 PM
Ferg   Bummer. :(   Sep 15 2009, 08:18 PM
ClayPerrine   Wow!!!! You are adding a LOT Of b...   Sep 15 2009, 08:23 PM
URY914   Wow!!!! You are adding a LOT Of ...   Sep 15 2009, 08:24 PM
bcheney   Strip, inhibit, prime and "paint the mother P...   Sep 15 2009, 08:31 PM
URY914   Now I have a open wound that is about 12" x 6...   Sep 15 2009, 08:23 PM
URY914   "strip" and "pink" in the same...   Sep 15 2009, 08:37 PM
FourBlades   ...strip...pink... :lol4: Kinda reminds me of ...   Sep 15 2009, 08:53 PM
McMark   I vote new lid.   Sep 15 2009, 09:11 PM
URY914   New lid? Think GREEN! Recycle, don't thro...   Sep 15 2009, 09:19 PM
Bleyseng   Grind to clean metal, treat, prime with epoxy pain...   Sep 15 2009, 09:50 PM
iamchappy   Fiberglass lid option.....   Sep 15 2009, 10:22 PM
carr914   I'm going to Gary's tomorrow, I'll see...   Sep 15 2009, 10:41 PM
dakotaewing   Wait.... I mean weight... Is that a METAL lid??? Y...   Sep 15 2009, 10:51 PM
rick 918-S   It looks like the filler was spread over rust or t...   Sep 15 2009, 11:26 PM
scrz914   BONDORAMA! I've seen that before. It woul...   Sep 16 2009, 12:01 AM
URY914   Thank you Rick and a few others for a real answer ...   Sep 16 2009, 07:19 AM
rick 918-S   Thank you Rick and a few others for a real answer...   Sep 16 2009, 07:28 AM
URY914   Yep, and you can't get to the back side at the...   Sep 16 2009, 09:10 AM
carr914   Sorry Paul, I didn't have a spare rear lid at ...   Sep 16 2009, 04:31 PM
URY914   No problem. I'll work with what I have. Thanks   Sep 16 2009, 08:11 PM
charliew   I promise you that lid even after you clean the wh...   Sep 17 2009, 10:31 PM
76-914   I promise you that lid even after you clean the w...   Sep 18 2009, 01:21 AM
ME733   :popcorn: Replace it . you will never be satisfied...   Sep 18 2009, 12:36 PM
r_towle   I trust Rick's advice and ScottyB....two guys ...   Sep 18 2009, 12:45 PM
URY914   Thanks Rich, I've been using rattle can etchi...   Sep 18 2009, 01:03 PM
JazonJJordan   :popcorn:   Sep 18 2009, 02:21 PM
scotty b   Hate to piss on your parade Paul, but that bondo w...   Sep 18 2009, 09:17 PM
kwales   I had mine dipped and derusted for about $50 ...   Sep 19 2009, 11:17 AM
gms   It looks like the original purpose of the bondo wa...   Sep 19 2009, 11:57 AM
carr914   It's all stripped, Come & get her T.C. ...   Oct 19 2009, 02:31 PM
URY914   I picked it up from TC on the way home and got som...   Oct 19 2009, 06:48 PM
carr914   I used flat black Rustolum and a foam roller. :...   Oct 19 2009, 09:00 PM
PanelBilly   That foam roller will give it a cool texture   Oct 19 2009, 09:09 PM
Vacca Rabite   That foam roller will give it a cool texture If...   Oct 20 2009, 01:55 PM
URY914   That foam roller will give it a cool texture I...   Oct 20 2009, 02:10 PM


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