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> Rear Swaybar ---what should i expect?, stock swaybar being installed
budman5201
post Sep 22 2009, 06:11 PM
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Hey guys just wanted some info. I have the front swaybar installed and i am installing the rear this weekend....What will my difference in handling be compared to running a front only swaybar? ( i am very used to swaying the back end out around corners and controlling it with my 252 hp subie.)

Just wondering the in the pants difference?
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post Sep 26 2009, 04:40 PM
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Ok.. here is my input on this subject.


The suspension is a whole system. Changes you make to one part affect all of the other parts. What a sway bar does is provide roll stiffness without increasing spring rate.

If you are running stock springs and stock shocks, then having both the front and rear sway bars make sense. The car will corner fairly flat and will be stable. This is a description of my wife's 914.

If you increase the spring rate on the rear of the car to compensate for a bigger motor, you need to eliminate the rear bar. This is because you have increased the roll stiffness in the rear of the car with stiffer springs. If you leave the bar with the stiffer springs, the car will no longer be neutral handling.

If you add a limited slip or torque biasing differental, the car will again need a rear bar. The limited slip changes the turning dynamics, and the rear bar will help correct this.



The best thing to do is read... get a copy of a book called "How To Make Your Car Handle by Fred Phun". This book will teach you a buttload about how suspension systems work on cars, and how to tell what is wrong when you make changes.

I have two copies of it, and one has been read through so many times it is literally falling apart. But it is worth the cost, it can explain this stuff far better than I can.

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budman5201   Rear Swaybar ---what should i expect?   Sep 22 2009, 06:11 PM
SLITS   A load of crap in the pants? According to the exp...   Sep 22 2009, 06:25 PM
r_towle   A load of crap in the pants? According to the ex...   Sep 23 2009, 12:10 PM
aircooledtechguy   Coming from a guy who's DD is a forklift He...   Sep 23 2009, 03:26 PM
rjames   Exactly. We need some real proof. Attempt the ...   Sep 22 2009, 06:59 PM
SirAndy   Just wondering the in the pants difference? Same ...   Sep 22 2009, 07:02 PM
aircooledtechguy   I installed a stock rear sway on mine and I like t...   Sep 22 2009, 07:26 PM
budman5201   Okay I'll finish up putting the new clutch in ...   Sep 23 2009, 01:14 AM
budman5201   my new clutch.   Sep 23 2009, 01:42 AM
SirAndy   my new clutch. How much torque are you going to ...   Sep 23 2009, 11:02 AM
budman5201   my new clutch. How much torque are you going to...   Sep 23 2009, 01:00 PM
SirAndy   well what kind of pressure plate were you running...   Sep 23 2009, 01:06 PM
ConeDodger   Rear bar is fine on the street and autocross and f...   Sep 23 2009, 11:39 PM
bfrymire   Hey guys just wanted some info. I have the front ...   Sep 24 2009, 02:23 AM
budman5201   Hey guys just wanted some info. I have the front...   Sep 24 2009, 09:02 PM
degreeoff   well good luck. IF you don't have a LSD of one...   Sep 25 2009, 07:55 AM
campbellcj   +1 I did not reinstall my rear bar until the LSD ...   Sep 25 2009, 10:38 PM
slackin' at work   Im a little late to this thread... but I'll th...   Sep 26 2009, 06:35 AM
Steve   I have one in my car. In the front i have a 22mm ...   Sep 26 2009, 04:20 PM
ClayPerrine   Ok.. here is my input on this subject. The suspe...   Sep 26 2009, 04:40 PM
SirAndy   If you increase the spring rate on the rear of th...   Sep 26 2009, 05:04 PM
budman5201   Hey Andy does your car weight more than mine. Mine...   Sep 26 2009, 05:17 PM
SirAndy   Hey Andy does your car weight more than mine. Min...   Sep 26 2009, 05:23 PM
ME733   Hey Andy does your car weight more than mine. Mi...   Sep 26 2009, 05:29 PM
budman5201   Hey Andy does your car weight more than mine. Mi...   Sep 28 2009, 07:18 PM


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