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kenshapiro2002
post Jul 24 2009, 06:39 PM
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Just brought the green machine back from CT this afternoon. After filling her up, she started to starve under load (trying to accelerate above 3,500 RPM...getting up a hill, etc.) so badly at one point I had to pull off the highway...she was dying. After sitting for 10-15 minutes, she fired up and was alright for another half hour. Then it all repeated. After the second rest she made it all the way back to Baltimore and ran beautifully for 90% of the time. I could sense a little starvation once in awhile.

I'm a shade tree mechanic at best, but my guess is that even though the seller (A Porsche tech) said the fuel tank was amazingly clean and needed nothing after being stored for 20 years, the fuel filter was getting clogged, and perhaps sitting for a while let things "settle". The seller suspects points. Any opinions?
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Eddie914
post Jul 25 2009, 06:26 PM
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"After filling up" .... Bad gas? It will not be the first time. Drain/pump some of the gas out and put it in a clear container. Look for any separation. Perform a quick smell test.

A clogged fuel filter is not uncommon on a vehicle that has been sitting for a long time. Condensation can result in water in the fuel. I always put a can or two of can dryer in the fuel of my vehicles that have been sitting (like through the winter).

My motorhome (carbed Chevy 454) exhibited the same symptoms - clogged fuel filter.

My BMW M5 exhibited the same symptoms - worn plugs, cap & rotor.

My Chevy Suburban (TBI 350) exhibited the same symptoms - worn cap & rotor.

When my vehicles start running poorly the culprit is USUALLY ignition related ... but since your teener started running poorly after a fuel fill up ... check the fuel system.

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Eddie,

Here I am , three months later, to tell you "You Win". After fixing everything electrical, and rebuilding the carbs, it finally got "healed" after a can of Valvoline Dry Gas and a can of Sea Foam (probably the dry gas did it all by itself). I knew that the fill up half the way home was the culprit, but other theories about the new gas flushing out old crap never bore fruit. I'm changing the sock and fuel lines, and pump next week, but right now she's running beautifully...finally...after some Dry Gas.


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"After filling up" .... Bad gas? It will not be the first time. Drain/pump some of the gas out and put it in a clear container. Look for any separation. Perform a quick smell test.

A clogged fuel filter is not uncommon on a vehicle that has been sitting for a long time. Condensation can result in water in the fuel. I always put a can or two of can dryer in the fuel of my vehicles that have been sitting (like through the winter).

My motorhome (carbed Chevy 454) exhibited the same symptoms - clogged fuel filter.

My BMW M5 exhibited the same symptoms - worn plugs, cap & rotor.

My Chevy Suburban (TBI 350) exhibited the same symptoms - worn cap & rotor.

When my vehicles start running poorly the culprit is USUALLY ignition related ... but since your teener started running poorly after a fuel fill up ... check the fuel system.

Eddie

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kenshapiro2002   Starving Under Load?   Jul 24 2009, 06:39 PM
ArtechnikA   The seller suspects points. Any opinions? Ignit...   Jul 24 2009, 07:38 PM
orange914   from what you said, sounds like your staring for f...   Jul 24 2009, 07:45 PM
McMark   Take a flashlight and have a look into the gas tan...   Jul 24 2009, 07:48 PM
r_towle   Take a flashlight and have a look into the gas ta...   Jul 24 2009, 08:34 PM
kenshapiro2002   1970, big bore kit to 2.0, twin webers. Ken Tak...   Jul 24 2009, 10:26 PM
kenshapiro2002   Good point, but being a "shade tree mechanic...   Jul 25 2009, 07:41 AM
ArtechnikA   Good point, but being a "shade tree mechanic...   Jul 25 2009, 09:22 AM
Rand   I guess the beer is taking affect, because I...   Jul 24 2009, 10:51 PM
McMark   Vapor lock is a good possibility. While your doin...   Jul 24 2009, 11:43 PM
r_towle   Carbs dont do well with old fuel in them. At the m...   Jul 24 2009, 11:56 PM
Vacca Rabite   The valve lash for a 1.7 was .006 intake and .006 ...   Jul 25 2009, 11:11 AM
orange914   pertronix electronic ign. conversion is a very goo...   Jul 25 2009, 01:54 PM
kenshapiro2002   Thanks folks! Ken   Jul 25 2009, 02:03 PM
Rand   Ken, reading your original post, it looks like you...   Jul 25 2009, 02:05 PM
kenshapiro2002   Yeah...after sitting for 20 years, the Porsche tec...   Jul 25 2009, 07:46 PM
charliew   There is a chance the techron will thin and break ...   Jul 25 2009, 05:49 PM
Eddie914   "After filling up" .... Bad gas? It wi...   Jul 25 2009, 06:26 PM
kenshapiro2002   Eddie, Here I am , three months later, to tell yo...   Oct 22 2009, 05:46 PM
crash914   hmmm carbs, I was going to go with trigger points ...   Jul 25 2009, 07:50 PM
kenshapiro2002   Never heard of "trigger points". Are we ...   Jul 26 2009, 09:32 AM
Rand   Never heard of "trigger points". Are we...   Jul 26 2009, 10:53 AM
kenshapiro2002   Well...she's doing it all the time now. The fu...   Aug 10 2009, 03:16 PM
kenshapiro2002   How difficult is this? Do I need a weber book to f...   Aug 10 2009, 03:18 PM
crash914   trigger points are used in fuel injection engines ...   Jul 26 2009, 10:57 AM
Kirmizi   http://www.carburetorclinic.com/weber_tech.htm Try...   Aug 10 2009, 03:26 PM
nycchef   http://www.carburetorclinic.com/weber_tech.htm Tr...   Aug 11 2009, 08:01 AM
jmill   After sitting for so long you need to go through t...   Aug 11 2009, 02:36 PM
kenshapiro2002   Thanks all. Ken After sitting for so long you ne...   Aug 11 2009, 05:18 PM
r_towle   pull them off. Box them up. Send them to Art. htt...   Aug 11 2009, 06:26 PM
kenshapiro2002   Just drove it like I stole it and it ran better, a...   Aug 14 2009, 05:11 PM
r_towle   If you get a gallon can of carb cleaner so you can...   Aug 14 2009, 06:56 PM
jmill   1 -Does it scream away in the first couple of gear...   Aug 14 2009, 08:27 PM
kenshapiro2002   1...No. In fact it does worse in first than any ot...   Aug 14 2009, 08:42 PM
seebobgo   Let the spending begin. You got to find a good sho...   Aug 15 2009, 06:13 PM
kenshapiro2002   Shop my ass...anything a "shop" can do I...   Aug 15 2009, 07:05 PM
kenshapiro2002   Alright...so I've had the rebuild kits for a w...   Aug 18 2009, 10:26 PM
r_towle   Alright...so I've had the rebuild kits for a ...   Aug 18 2009, 10:51 PM
jmill   To do it right, yes. There isn't much to them...   Aug 18 2009, 10:52 PM
kenshapiro2002   So...just went out to drive her hard again. I gues...   Aug 19 2009, 05:56 PM
jmill   Yes it's that simple if the tank is empty. Do...   Aug 19 2009, 07:21 PM


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