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> Side bars, How do these look
Randal
post Dec 10 2009, 12:46 PM
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Saw these in Grassroots Motorsports last night. I like the idea of angling them out a bit into the door, for which i have room. Also the fabrication looks clean and I think the bars are stronger the way shown, but if not please pipe up.

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post Dec 12 2009, 07:28 PM
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Old dog,
at least they put top (and hopefully bottom) gussets on the drivers side.
That is the worst way to build x bracing, with the weld joint actually being weaker than a single tube due to HAZ (heat affected zone) stresses.
I watched video (from both cars' perspective) of an improved touring car with the exact same passenger door bars that spun and was driven into by a Miata at no more than 40 mph. The Miata's bumper penetrated to the center console of the car that was sideways.
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post Dec 13 2009, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 12 2009, 05:28 PM) *

The Miata's bumper penetrated to the center console of the car that was sideways.



Thats my point ..seems like a big hole! whats the reason to put the bars that low?easy access and egress..if you can get in easier so can a car
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post Dec 13 2009, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(6freak @ Dec 13 2009, 01:33 AM) *

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 12 2009, 05:28 PM) *

The Miata's bumper penetrated to the center console of the car that was sideways.



Thats my point ..seems like a big hole! whats the reason to put the bars that low?easy access and egress..if you can get in easier so can a car

The Miata didn't go over the bars it went through them! The single center weld broke instead of the bars keeping the car out.
I don't find it any easier to get into a car with X bracing. Its hard to get your feet past them. NASCAR style bars offer a good place to sit and rest on the way in or out.
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post Dec 13 2009, 09:13 AM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 13 2009, 06:37 AM) *

QUOTE(6freak @ Dec 13 2009, 01:33 AM) *

QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Dec 12 2009, 05:28 PM) *

The Miata's bumper penetrated to the center console of the car that was sideways.



Thats my point ..seems like a big hole! whats the reason to put the bars that low?easy access and egress..if you can get in easier so can a car

The Miata didn't go over the bars it went through them! The single center weld broke instead of the bars keeping the car out.
I don't find it any easier to get into a car with X bracing. Its hard to get your feet past them. NASCAR style bars offer a good place to sit and rest on the way in or out.




My doors are more or less permanently attached. Pretty easy to get in and out; no windshield or top. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistle[1].gif)

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