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| bcheney |
 Oct 19 2009, 06:44 PM
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I need to replace the control arm bushings on my 6 conversion. I am using stock 914 contral arms. I purchased a set of OEM style rubber bushings. The manufacturer is URO Parts. They have a U-tube video explaining why they made their bushings along with a demo of how to install them. The price of a complete set of four bushings was about $50.00 Here is the link to URO's U-tube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45IvTOZxtBE Elephant Racing makes there own version and claim that brand X (It looks like they may be referencing the URO parts) will not stand up over time. Their price for four bushings and installation tool is over $200. They say the brand X bushing significantly deforms after just one load. Here is the link to Elephants U-Tube video that compares the two types. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X03h2gE4Rao...feature=related I am really beginning to wonder if I should just go ahead and install the poly bushings I had at the beginning of all of this. They ran about $40.00 OR $50.00. I was told they will squeak...so that's why I looked into the OEM style rubber type. I Really dont want to spend another $200 if I dont have to. If you have experience with any of these bushings please give me your thoughs. I would like to know what the real world report is... |
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 14 2009, 12:00 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,030 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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My 914 is on Elephant Bushings. Even with 200# coilovers on the rear and Koni Adjustables on full stiff they dance over everything on the road. It is a very responsive suspension.
Having said that, I think the FreeMotion would be exactly the same responsiveness. Performance is really the thing I look for. Either of these would perform. I know nothing of Delrin and cannot say that it is an inferior product. I would probably have my car on FreeMotion if the rears were available when I was doing the suspension. If I build another car, perhaps a track dedicated car, it would be on FreeMotion. |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 14 2009, 12:26 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Dec 13 2009, 10:00 PM)  I would probably have my car on FreeMotion if the rears were available when I was doing the suspension. I was lucky to get the last set for the rear when Mike Mueller closed shop and passed his stuff on to McMark. I've been running the rears for 4 years or so now. Even with the 250lbs springs, the rear does not feel harsh at all. Just ask Dr. Evil how nice my rear felt at the tranny clinic! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Wait, that didn't sound right ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Andy |
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bcheney Control Arm Bushings - The Final Word? Oct 19 2009, 06:44 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT I would trust Elephant racing's research. I ha... Oct 19 2009, 07:40 PM
bcheney I appreciate the feedback. The squeak must be pret... Oct 19 2009, 07:57 PM Racer Chris
I had the rubber and went to the delrin bushings... Oct 19 2009, 09:40 PM
SirAndy
Needle bearings fit loosely and rely on glue to h... Oct 19 2009, 09:48 PM ericread
I would trust Elephant racing's research. I h... Oct 20 2009, 09:21 AM DBCooper The URO master cylinders have rubber grommets that... Oct 19 2009, 08:41 PM lagunero If I had to do it all over again (since I did the ... Oct 19 2009, 09:08 PM iamchappy And The Final Word, use needle bearings. Oct 19 2009, 09:21 PM SirAndy
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Roller-Bearings Oct 19 2009, 09:34 PM iamchappy Roller-needle-Bearings.... Oct 19 2009, 09:35 PM iamchappy Rolling-bearing-needle-bearing.....Bearings Oct 19 2009, 09:36 PM SirAndy
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Roll... Oct 19 2009, 09:45 PM 6freak
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Tap... Dec 13 2009, 09:08 PM SirAndy
after reading all that i still cant figure out t... Dec 13 2009, 09:40 PM sixaddict My rears sound like an old elephant (no reference... Oct 19 2009, 09:37 PM Racer Chris Ok Andy,
You tell me how a round sleeve is held ti... Oct 19 2009, 10:04 PM Dave_Darling
You tell me how a round sleeve is held tightly in... Oct 20 2009, 01:34 AM iamchappy Rolling bears bearing needles :confused: Oct 19 2009, 10:09 PM SirAndy
Rolling bears bearing needles :confused:
Needleb... Oct 20 2009, 12:03 AM THE STIG Who has more track time here? I think it pretty cl... Oct 19 2009, 11:03 PM SirAndy
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And how much of that was on roller bearings? ... Oct 20 2009, 12:01 AM Racer Chris
Who has more track time here? I think it pretty c... Oct 20 2009, 07:37 AM Lavanaut Argh! Another project that's been on the... Oct 20 2009, 12:06 AM Phoenix 914-6GT :ook at the Elephant site and see the race that is... Oct 20 2009, 04:11 AM bcheney How can you tell if you have a Delrin bushing or a... Oct 20 2009, 06:54 AM Racer Chris Brian,
Those are definitely Polygraphite. Weltmeis... Oct 20 2009, 07:29 AM iamchappy With the final word to be said even if you wanted ... Oct 20 2009, 08:43 AM Gint McMark is doing them up if not now, shortly I thou... Oct 20 2009, 08:50 AM URY914 Brian, so much for a simple answer..... Oct 20 2009, 08:55 AM tat2dphreak I like how no one even asked if this was for racin... Oct 20 2009, 09:08 AM Travis Neff Make sure you really need to change out your rubbe... Oct 20 2009, 10:17 AM Eric_Shea Interesting thread. I think the end result may be... Oct 20 2009, 10:37 AM Phoenix 914-6GT Well written as always Eric. I couldn't have s... Oct 20 2009, 01:25 PM Elliot Cannon The "final word" is usually the "bo... Oct 20 2009, 01:51 PM ericread Mr. Shea said it very well.
As for my ride, I wou... Oct 20 2009, 01:52 PM tradisrad I've seen people complain about binding with ... Oct 21 2009, 09:45 AM bcheney Can you supply any more detail on how you modified... Dec 13 2009, 08:53 PM 6freak so we have
free motion
poly bronze
stock rubber... Dec 13 2009, 09:45 PM McMark Just to clear a few things up:
FreeMotion fronts ... Dec 13 2009, 11:41 PM Dr Evil Andy's rear felt firm yet pliable :P
I was so... Dec 14 2009, 02:00 AM rfuerst911sc Brian here's my 2 cents. On my 911 I have Elep... Dec 14 2009, 06:26 AM bcheney Thanks Rick. I went ahead and ordered the Elephant... Dec 15 2009, 10:20 PM charliew Bearings are intended to be used in a high speed r... Dec 16 2009, 12:49 PM tradisrad follow up: I have driven my car since my last post... Dec 16 2009, 01:25 PM 6freak ....Ive made up my mind ..Go`n polybronze Dec 16 2009, 02:48 PM |
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