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| 6freak |
Dec 18 2009, 04:12 PM
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MR.C ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
![]() first flight and of course landing she `s BIG Note the shark tooth nacell(engine cowl)..and the flex in the wings the new 747-8 wings will flex even more |
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| Mikey914 |
Dec 19 2009, 02:54 AM
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The rubber man ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 12,772 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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I think they'll make alot of money on these once they've, got the logistics figured out. The payload is better and the fuel burn better, that's enough to drive the customers right to them.
As far as the Scarebus goes, no thanks. Remember the one that crashed in the ocean off Brazil? Suposedly there's an issue Airbus denies, but it was aggravated by the fact they were in severe turbulence at 39,000. Boeing for the most part makes a very good product, and if they can deliver on their promises, this will be very profitable for them. |
| J P Stein |
Dec 20 2009, 11:29 AM
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Irrelevant old fart ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I think they'll make alot of money on these once they've, got the logistics figured out. The payload is better and the fuel burn better, that's enough to drive the customers right to them. Boeing for the most part makes a very good product, and if they can deliver on their promises, this will be very profitable for them. They are already several billions over the R&D budget and over 2 years behind schedule. Add in the billion or so they'll pay the customers for not making delivery plus a couple billion for the new facility in SC.....the payback on that is maybe 20-30 years.....AND their production schedule is so aggressive as to be absurd. We gots lots more chances to screw the pooch. Factor in their profit margins of less than 10%. The 787 may well turn out to be a good airplane....by God, it had better be......but the whole program has been so mismanaged that it will be in the textbooks for what not to do.....come to think of it, it was done by textbook...teachers teach rather than produce and are never wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) In case you haven't noticed, all they have gotten done (profitwise) is promises....most all have already been broken. At what point do you think that is going to cease? The last new airplane program was the 777. The guy that ran that is now running Ford. He was adjudged to be not good enuff to run Boeing......we got a Jack Welsh trained bean counter instead......he's been knocking em' dead, eh? |
6freak WOT: Jets at she pretty Dec 18 2009, 04:12 PM
messix i saw it take off. man that thing is quiet once it... Dec 18 2009, 04:32 PM
6freak
i saw it take off. man that thing is quiet once i... Dec 18 2009, 08:37 PM
J P Stein
I dont know if they(Airbus) shotpeen J.P ...non... Dec 18 2009, 11:20 PM
6freak
I dont know if they(Airbus) shotpeen J.P ...no... Dec 19 2009, 01:24 AM
number6 What is that plane in the background? Dec 18 2009, 05:21 PM
Drums66
What is that plane in the background?
914-S Dec 18 2009, 05:50 PM
SLITS The chase plane looks like a Lockheed P-80 "S... Dec 18 2009, 05:40 PM
Sleepin
The chase plane looks like a Lockheed P-80 ... Dec 18 2009, 06:36 PM
SLITS
The chase plane looks like a Lockheed P-80 ... Dec 18 2009, 06:40 PM
kwales Dang, those wings flex more than the B-52...
So d... Dec 18 2009, 06:27 PM
jmill Tell me Boeing isn't going the way Airbus did.... Dec 18 2009, 06:36 PM
J P Stein
Tell me Boeing isn't going the way Airbus did... Dec 18 2009, 07:05 PM
J P Stein If they ever make a nickel on those 787s they... Dec 18 2009, 06:43 PM
SGB The literal flexibility is amazing.... Dec 18 2009, 06:45 PM
drgchapman I expected to see the wing tiplets, what about the... Dec 18 2009, 07:22 PM
davesprinkle T-33 Dec 18 2009, 09:18 PM
Krank
T-33
EH! Dec 18 2009, 11:40 PM
davesprinkle T-38 Dec 18 2009, 09:19 PM
6freak
T-38
we have one of these as well ,That prolly ... Dec 19 2009, 01:46 AM
davesprinkle The question ISN'T:
What kind of chase plane d... Dec 18 2009, 09:21 PM
Elliot Cannon NOT ENOUGH MOTORS. Dec 19 2009, 12:02 AM
Elliot Cannon The Airbus is indeed a POS. (Just my opinion but ... Dec 19 2009, 12:12 AM
6freak
The Airbus is indeed a POS. (Just my opinion but... Dec 19 2009, 01:56 AM
messix areoshit is like riding in a busted up city bus an... Dec 19 2009, 01:01 AM
6freak
areoshit is like riding in a busted up city bus a... Dec 19 2009, 01:47 AM
Todd Enlund
first flight and of course landing
she `s... Dec 19 2009, 02:05 AM
6freak that plane cant fly...... ITS TOO BIG Dec 19 2009, 02:10 AM
Dr Evil Man, I wish I could find the image of a jumbo jet ... Dec 19 2009, 02:17 AM
Dr Evil This is close, but the one I saw was more profound... Dec 19 2009, 02:20 AM
Dr Evil Here is a good video :)
http://images.google.com/i... Dec 19 2009, 02:24 AM
Elliot Cannon I met one of the original 747 test pilots about 25... Dec 19 2009, 02:36 AM
Bartlett 914
I think they'll make alot of money on these o... Dec 19 2009, 03:03 PM

Todd Enlund
Wasn't it an airbus in New Jersey that lost i... Dec 19 2009, 06:39 PM
6freak Most are pilot error..like the A320 that dumped du... Dec 19 2009, 03:27 PM
davesprinkle T34 Dec 19 2009, 11:25 PM
davesprinkle Oh. Wait. Wrong T34. Try again. Dec 19 2009, 11:26 PM
campbellcj Boeing is one of my customers and Airbus is not, b... Dec 20 2009, 01:23 AM
J P Stein The 747 is legend around here for a number of reas... Dec 20 2009, 09:38 AM
DNHunt I think that thing needs an Engman stiffening kit.... Dec 20 2009, 10:00 AM
scotty b
I think that thing needs an Engman stiffening kit... Dec 20 2009, 10:27 AM
6freak I concur J.P ....Im gonna run over to the 350bldg ... Dec 21 2009, 09:59 AM
6freak T-38
T-33 Dec 21 2009, 11:05 AM
6freak Sorry about the bad pix ,its the best i can do wit... Dec 21 2009, 11:08 AM
6freak Ok so i talk with the machanic he said they use th... Dec 21 2009, 11:11 AM
6freak
#2 flys... total of 6 test bed`s so we can g... Dec 22 2009, 03:03 PM
6freak
there go`s another paycheck :Qarl: that mad... Dec 23 2009, 01:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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