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ChrisFoley
post Jan 21 2010, 03:48 AM
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This prototype will be ready for installation in my street car in a few days.


(IMG:http://www.tangerineracing.com/images/EnginePics/TangerineEngineCoolingSystemPrototype01.jpg)

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Update: 02/18/10
Pre-production discount price of $1359 in effect through 03/07/10
Paypal accepted at my website. Horizontal Cooling Fan Conversion
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post Jan 21 2010, 09:12 AM
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Does look good (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) , alternator change would be a snap . What about alternator cooling ?? Oil filter appears to be relocated , spark plug change ?? What provisions for these areas ??Still overall aGR8 looking design , I do like it better (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) than DTM , more compact , have you any data on oil temps, head temps ??

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post Jan 21 2010, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(jaxdream @ Jan 21 2010, 10:12 AM) *

What about alternator cooling ?? Oil filter appears to be relocated , spark plug change ??
... have you any data on oil temps, head temps ??

We're still working on the alternator cooling feature but it is no problem.
Remote oil filter and cooler required.
Spark plugs will be no harder than stock. I just haven't opened the holes up on the shroud yet.
No hard data other than my years of experience on the track competing in SCCA.
Oil temps will depend on how good of an oil cooler system is installed.
Head temps on any mild engine will be fine. It wasn't until I was pushing 100hp/liter that any difficulty arose in that department.
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post Jan 21 2010, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jan 21 2010, 12:10 PM) *

QUOTE(jaxdream @ Jan 21 2010, 10:12 AM) *

What about alternator cooling ?? Oil filter appears to be relocated , spark plug change ??
... have you any data on oil temps, head temps ??

We're still working on the alternator cooling feature but it is no problem.
Remote oil filter and cooler required.
Spark plugs will be no harder than stock. I just haven't opened the holes up on the shroud yet.
No hard data other than my years of experience on the track competing in SCCA.
Oil temps will depend on how good of an oil cooler system is installed.
Head temps on any mild engine will be fine. It wasn't until I was pushing 100hp/liter that any difficulty arose in that department.



- Would changing the alternator out to a more modern unit be easier than working out the cooling for the factory unit?

- What do you suggest for remote cooler- size and location?

- Plugs should be no big deal once the holes are opened up.

- This could be a great thing for the 914T... need any additional testers?...

- Would a basic FG shroud be any cheeper/easier than CF?

Cool... very cool.

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post Jan 21 2010, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(ottox914 @ Jan 21 2010, 07:13 PM) *

- Would changing the alternator out to a more modern unit be easier than working out the cooling for the factory unit?

The stock unit is one of the shortest available and fits very nicely.
Besides, everybody already has one with the correct wiring and connector.
We'll solve the cooling issue and I'm sure it won't be much work.
A smaller pulley would be better though.
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- What do you suggest for remote cooler- size and location?

Of course, a front mounted cooler is the best for cool air access.
With a Tangerine Header, a cooler on the passenger side behind the axle is feasible.
For most people a 16-25 row cooler is the best size range, depending on displacement/rpm range.
We will probably offer a cooler kit later this year.
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- Plugs should be no big deal once the holes are opened up.

I opened the holes up this evening after I fitted ring thermocouples on the plugs.
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- This could be a great thing for the 914T... need any additional testers?...

I need lots of testers, paying testers. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Really, the system is well proven to be very effective.
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- Would a basic FG shroud be any cheeper/easier than CF?

I still need to do more research but I don't think the price difference is that great.
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Cool... very cool.

Yes indeed. When I first saw the original made by Jay Putnam I knew it was an excellent idea, perhaps his only one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Racer Chris   Tangerine Racing Products   Jan 21 2010, 03:48 AM
raw1298   looks great !   Jan 21 2010, 04:42 AM
watsonrx13   Looks great Chris... :headbanger: If this is ins...   Jan 21 2010, 05:44 AM
Racer Chris   Looks great Chris... :headbanger: If this is in...   Jan 21 2010, 08:13 AM
lotus_65   Our kit will include aluminum sheetmetal to seal t...   Jan 25 2010, 04:48 AM
Zimms   It looks great. Any plans to test it against a hor...   Jan 21 2010, 05:51 AM
Racer Chris   It looks great. Any plans to test it against a ho...   Jan 21 2010, 09:08 AM
ottox914   Great, just great. I've been fantasizing abou...   Jan 21 2010, 07:53 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   "Take your Porsh and chev it" ?   Jan 21 2010, 09:02 AM
Racer Chris   "Take your Porsh and chev it" ? Um, I ...   Jan 21 2010, 09:12 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I will never forget the time a flared 914 rolled i...   Jan 21 2010, 01:25 PM
Racer Chris   It ended up having so much power that it would c...   Jan 21 2010, 02:21 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   (looks like a corvair engine!!!)   Jan 21 2010, 09:03 AM
jaxdream   Does look good :Qarl: :headbanger: , alternator c...   Jan 21 2010, 09:12 AM
Racer Chris   What about alternator cooling ?? Oil filter appea...   Jan 21 2010, 02:10 PM
ottox914   What about alternator cooling ?? Oil filter appe...   Jan 21 2010, 06:13 PM
Racer Chris   - Would changing the alternator out to a more mod...   Jan 21 2010, 08:31 PM
Mr.242   I like the enginering...very Corvair ISH. NOW, wh...   Jan 21 2010, 09:17 AM
SirAndy   NOW, what about just adding an electric fan on to...   Jan 21 2010, 01:37 PM
bdstone914   NOW, what about just adding an electric fan on t...   Jan 21 2010, 10:05 PM
Racer Chris   Chris, It you want to try one out I can probably...   Jan 22 2010, 06:24 AM
Chris Hamilton   Andy, There would be gains, or really less power ...   Jan 24 2010, 06:22 PM
ConeDodger   Andy, There would be gains, or really less power...   Feb 7 2010, 02:20 PM
Cap'n Krusty   With the necessarily high tension on the belts at ...   Jan 21 2010, 09:58 AM
Racer Chris   With the necessarily high tension on the belts at...   Jan 21 2010, 02:04 PM
turboman808   Very cool! When will this be on a six. :pop...   Jan 21 2010, 10:11 AM
kwales   No, the electric fan isn't used for cooling, i...   Jan 21 2010, 12:10 PM
URY914   Don't think that an electric motor driven fan ...   Jan 21 2010, 12:30 PM
Racer Chris   Don't think that an electric motor driven fan...   Jan 21 2010, 02:17 PM
RobW   Awesome. :beer1:   Jan 21 2010, 01:30 PM
flipb   If you reverse the direction of the fan, would you...   Jan 21 2010, 02:15 PM
URY914   And the belts are much better these days then in y...   Jan 21 2010, 03:25 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Wow :drooley: You sure do come up with some cool s...   Jan 21 2010, 04:45 PM
Brando   Chris if I still had a 914 I would have loved to b...   Jan 21 2010, 09:37 PM
Racer Chris   My CAD guy gave me this animation the other day. T...   Jan 24 2010, 05:03 PM
Racer Chris   Here are pics of the latest progress.   Jan 24 2010, 05:49 PM
ericread   Finally! A 914 hovercraft!!! :lo...   Jan 24 2010, 06:42 PM
URY914   Chris, is the aluminum several pieces you tig...   Jan 24 2010, 07:37 PM
Racer Chris   Chris, is the aluminum several pieces you tig...   Jan 25 2010, 05:55 AM
Dr Evil   Bang on corvair as it is belt driven vs gear drive...   Jan 24 2010, 10:07 PM
turnaround89   How much is the cost going to be for this setup?   Jan 25 2010, 01:30 AM
rdauenhauer   I was wondering about this..It dosent look like t...   Jan 25 2010, 08:46 AM
Racer Chris   I was wondering about this..It dosent look like t...   Jan 26 2010, 08:07 PM
nsr-jamie   Chris, first want to thank you for sending me thos...   Jan 25 2010, 08:53 AM
Racer Chris   Will you make the sheetmetal in carbon fiber? (Th...   Jan 26 2010, 08:13 PM
Dr Evil   That looks so bad ass :trophy:   Jan 26 2010, 08:30 PM
Rod   Cool. Well let's hope so ;) Looking great. ...   Jan 27 2010, 03:20 AM
Racer Chris   a more modern alternative with a higher output wo...   Jan 27 2010, 06:16 AM
Rod   a more modern alternative with a higher output w...   Jan 27 2010, 10:41 AM
r_towle   I saw this setup today and it looked great. I thin...   Feb 6 2010, 04:20 PM
Racer Chris   It was good to see you Rich! Here's how i...   Feb 7 2010, 12:23 PM
Brando   Chris, Would it be possible to show an intercooler...   Feb 7 2010, 05:19 PM
ottox914   Chris, Would it be possible to show an intercoole...   Feb 8 2010, 08:10 AM
Racer Chris   Would it be possible to show an intercooler place...   Feb 8 2010, 08:23 AM
Racer Chris   I'm working on a wooden buck to form more alum...   Feb 16 2010, 12:21 PM
Cevan   I saw this in person last week (needed my annual B...   Feb 16 2010, 02:07 PM
Racer Chris   Production of the first batch has begun. For a lim...   Feb 18 2010, 11:43 AM
Racer Chris   Here's an Audi TT intercooler sitting on my th...   Feb 24 2010, 12:16 PM
Racer Chris   And here's a pic of the wooden form I've b...   Feb 24 2010, 12:23 PM
Dr Evil   Very cool process. Thanks for posting.   Feb 24 2010, 02:00 PM
FourBlades   How much additional engine horsepower output do yo...   Feb 24 2010, 02:45 PM
Racer Chris   How did you make the wooden buck? Belt sander? I...   Feb 24 2010, 04:45 PM
Racer Chris   How much additional engine horsepower output do y...   Mar 2 2010, 05:25 PM
Racer Chris   Here's a pic of the first "pilot producti...   Mar 2 2010, 05:09 PM
lancelotIV   wow, Chris! this looks GREAT! You've c...   Mar 29 2010, 03:50 PM
Racer Chris   How much are you thinking this system will weigh...   Mar 29 2010, 07:13 PM
r_towle   How about composite pulleys and associated bracket...   Mar 29 2010, 07:33 PM
Racer Chris   How about composite pulleys and associated bracke...   Mar 29 2010, 07:49 PM
r_towle   Yet drive down the weight. Composite pulleys can ...   Mar 29 2010, 07:50 PM
Racer Chris   BTW, did you dig up the iron and smelt it, then f...   Mar 29 2010, 08:44 PM
r_towle   The story of creating the buck is lacking some ver...   Mar 29 2010, 08:48 PM
Racer Chris   The story of creating the buck is lacking some ve...   Mar 30 2010, 09:37 AM
rick 918-S   Very nice work Chris! You are a machine! :...   Mar 29 2010, 10:50 PM
Brando   The setup is so sexy with that intercooler. I rea...   Mar 29 2010, 10:55 PM
Krieger914   Chris how the hell did you know 26 years ago that ...   Mar 30 2010, 08:21 PM
Racer Chris   It was the same year I bought my tangerine 914. :D   Mar 30 2010, 09:08 PM


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