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> EP 914-6 How low can I go?
neilca
post Dec 31 2009, 11:35 AM
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I am setting up an EP 914-6 for SCCA regionals. I have 22mm front torsion bars and 350# springs in the rear. How low can I set the ride height? I have found the bolts that hold in the front sub frame to be the lowest point of the car and I can adjust the bars till it hits the ground. The rear I use the jack points on the back corners of the tub. I can lower these down to 2" off the ground.

I have a set of the 23mm front bars also and can get heavier rear springs if needed. Any suggestions? I am runing cantilevered slicks from Goodyear.

I will be running tracks like Road Atlanta, Barber, Roebling and CMP. How low can I go?

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neilca.
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post Feb 19 2010, 09:17 AM
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I have set the ride height. I decided the rules dictate how low to set the car. I put a rim on the LF corner with no tire, simulating a flat tire condition. Lowered the car to the ground and set the ride height such that the lowest point was 1/2" off the ground. Put the regular tire back on and measured 2 3/4" from the jack nub ( this is the boss on the bottom of the tub in the four corners). I then set the rear to 3 3/4" in the rear to give the car some wedge for down force.

Now on to corner balancing, see post on the subject.
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QUOTE(Racer Chris @ Jan 2 2010, 04:45 PM) *

Raising the rear pickups would solve multiple problems:
Shock travel would increase;
Trailing arm would have more clearance to the underside of the chassis;
Less spacers needed to get desired camber;
Lower rear roll center.


Chris - from some playing I've done using the susprog suspension design tool, raising the rear pickup points raises rear roll center. You have found differently? Of course, you get other benefits by raising pickup points by bringing the arm closer to its intended range of motion ...


QUOTE(stewteral @ Jan 2 2010, 08:48 PM) *

CG vs. Roll Center: THE GREAT QUESTION, from what I have experienced, the Roll Center is the more important issue and the LOW roll center will continue to give you handling problems.....


Usually a low roll center is considered desirable. You still have to balance it with other parameters of course. Have you had positive experience in aiming for high roll centers?


Neil - great looking car. I remember seeing the spread over on Pelican a while back.

Scott
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neilca   EP 914-6 How low can I go?   Dec 31 2009, 11:35 AM
ChrisNPDrider   Other more experienced SCCA will chime in, but.......   Dec 31 2009, 12:37 PM
Racer Chris   Lowering the car won't give any benefits if yo...   Dec 31 2009, 05:36 PM
bam914   I ran 350# rear springs and 23mm t-bars with an 1 ...   Dec 31 2009, 06:53 PM
neilca   I ran 350# rear springs and 23mm t-bars with an 1...   Jan 1 2010, 11:57 AM
ME733   :popcorn: I believe the concept and creation of ca...   Dec 31 2009, 09:40 PM
stewteral   -------------------------------------------------...   Dec 31 2009, 09:53 PM
neilca   Thanks for all the feedback. My car is far from st...   Jan 1 2010, 09:22 AM
stewteral   Thanks for all the feedback. My car is far from s...   Jan 1 2010, 07:36 PM
Britain Smith   Thanks for all the feedback. My car is far from s...   Jan 1 2010, 10:50 PM
J P Stein   Keep a close eye on the inner rod of those Bilstei...   Jan 1 2010, 10:06 AM
neilca   Thanks for the heads up JP. Hopefully, the Sciro...   Jan 1 2010, 11:22 AM
bam914   In IT you have a min. ride height of 5". Tha...   Jan 1 2010, 12:45 PM
neilca   Terry, Thanks for the spread sheet. You are corre...   Jan 1 2010, 09:12 PM
stewteral   Terry, Thanks for the spread sheet. You are corr...   Jan 2 2010, 07:48 PM
Racer Chris   Neil, you mentioned raising the rear shock mounts ...   Jan 1 2010, 09:34 PM
J P Stein   One (of several) spread sheets I've seen give ...   Jan 1 2010, 09:45 PM
neilca   Here is a picture of the front arm and strut. Yo...   Jan 2 2010, 10:23 AM
neilca   Here are some shots of the rear. I have had to a...   Jan 2 2010, 10:41 AM
Racer Chris   Kind of hard to call that an EP car with the amoun...   Jan 2 2010, 03:45 PM
neilca   Chris, You are correct, my car is way beyond EP p...   Jan 3 2010, 04:01 PM
Racer Chris   In the northeast most of the SPU cars are 7/8ths p...   Jan 3 2010, 06:14 PM
neilca   I have set the ride height. I decided the rules di...   Feb 19 2010, 09:17 AM
stownsen914   Raising the rear pickups would solve multiple pro...   Feb 20 2010, 12:24 PM


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