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watsonrx13
post Mar 5 2010, 05:29 PM
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Eric's ad selling the 912 rear calipers started a discussion about the brake pressure regulator. I'd like to continue that discussion. Eric mentions that he wouldn't replace the regulator with a 'T' fitting. What I would like to know is how could you test the regulator off of the car? At $300 - $400 a piece from the dealer I would like to test mine before I purchase a new one.

Also, Eric mentioned that the front calipers shouldn't be used on the rear, even with the regulator. Is there any problem installing a set of rebuilt rears on and not installing the parking brake cables?

Any thoughts and suggestions are welcomed. BTW, I'd like to keep this discussion only for the 4-lug wheels.

Also, what are the thoughts about replacing the master cylinder with the larger one how does that effect the brake biasing?

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post Mar 6 2010, 03:22 PM
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Eric - others?

I'm basically looking for a bit better braking on my 73 2L for primarily street use & want to keep it for all intents & purposes an "as original" example that I can CW if I want, or maybe AX a little just for the halibut. So are there any issues &/or concerns in brake system set-up - relative to tires sizes - when staying with a more or less stock street brake setup on my early 8/72 build 73 914-2.0? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

... i.e.: when using the OE Fuchs 2L Alloys with OE size repro/new OEM 165(/80)HR15 Radials as completely as OE - vs. the "newer" & wider tires more readily available today in the similar speedo error "close" range, such as the 195/65HR15 or 185/70HR15 (or VR's) ???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If it makes any diff. to the answer for the above:

- Brake System-wise - My early 73 2L has late front (2 bleeder) & early rear (1 bleeder) calipers which I'll have Eric do his thang with, add Porterfield R4S pads F&R, using stock OEM rubber hoses all around, upgrading to the 19mm 914-6/911 MC, & I will put on new Zimmerman OE solid rotors & FAG/OEM bearings F&R while I'm at it - mostly so the whole system seats & functions as new. The old rotors were still good - but sat on the 914 in my garage for almost 25 years, & will stockpile them just in case they're NLA 10 years from now, or sell them. BTW - OE pressure regulator stays in!

- Suspension-wise - the 73 2L's all came with the factory sway bars F&R rear (mine incl.), the rear springs & front torsion bars are still OE stock, but I'd changed out Sachs OE for Koni reds at all 4 corners back in the early 80's & they only have about 20k mi' on them before stored in 5/85, & seem strong (will do street/sport Bilsteins if/when they need replaced). I'd run the front only lowered about the 1/2" adjustment you get with the stock suspension set-up (adj. at the Torsion Bars IIRC ??), & will do so now, but will add in all new street bushings F&R and the OEM Lemforder (sp?) Turbo Tie-rod kit (& bump steer kit iff necessary).

BTW - folks, with what you save on putting in a 19mm MC vs. 17mm MC - it basically covers the price diff on OEM & more basic stock type pads - if cost is a concern while you're doing this, or just save more with better braking & firmer pedal with 19mm & stock types pads - both at less. IMHO - it's the way to go even on a street or DD, come time to rebuild the brake system.
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watsonrx13   Brake pressure regulator   Mar 5 2010, 05:29 PM
SirAndy   Stock brakes and a "T" is a bad idea tha...   Mar 5 2010, 05:36 PM
type47   ... and why would you want to mount rebuilt rear b...   Mar 5 2010, 05:41 PM
Tom_T   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here -...   Mar 5 2010, 05:51 PM
watsonrx13   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here ...   Mar 5 2010, 06:02 PM
Tom_T   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here...   Mar 5 2010, 06:07 PM
watsonrx13   I'm not advocating replacing the pressure regu...   Mar 5 2010, 06:01 PM
McMark   The E in E-Brake stands for EMERGENCY. Emergencie...   Mar 5 2010, 07:10 PM
SirAndy   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy   Mar 5 2010, 07:28 PM
Tom_T   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy...   Mar 5 2010, 07:54 PM
ConeDodger   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy...   Mar 5 2010, 09:15 PM
kg6dxn   I could see replacing it with an adjustable one. ...   Mar 5 2010, 07:40 PM
Eric_Shea   I can't type all that crap again so I'll j...   Mar 5 2010, 07:44 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks Eric for the update. -- Rob   Mar 5 2010, 07:51 PM
Eric_Shea   Also... disconnecting hand brake cables would have...   Mar 5 2010, 07:54 PM
Eric_Shea   Read this...   Mar 5 2010, 07:58 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks Eric, very good description. BTW, is there...   Mar 5 2010, 08:08 PM
Tom_T   Great dissertation from the Guru of Porsche Brakes...   Mar 5 2010, 08:09 PM
campbellcj   Here is the original thread over in the classified...   Mar 5 2010, 10:48 PM
pbanders   Good stuff. FWIW, the "in car" test I wa...   Mar 5 2010, 11:00 PM
watsonrx13   So why does someone replace the pressure regulator...   Mar 6 2010, 07:23 AM
campbellcj   So why does someone replace the pressure regulato...   Mar 6 2010, 12:33 PM
McMark   If you're a racer looking for every last milli...   Mar 6 2010, 11:06 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: That's why I always try to stay with...   Mar 6 2010, 02:52 PM
Tom_T   Eric - others? I'm basically looking for a bi...   Mar 6 2010, 03:22 PM
Eric_Shea   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others ou...   Mar 6 2010, 06:20 PM
Tom_T   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others o...   Mar 6 2010, 07:07 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others o...   Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM
campbellcj   How does this all apply to the addition of V8 wei...   Jul 23 2010, 12:32 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   How does this all apply to the addition of V8 we...   Jul 23 2010, 12:50 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Eric_Shea' post='1283326' date='Mar ...   Jul 23 2010, 12:43 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Because they simply may not understand what it rea...   Jul 23 2010, 05:13 PM
wobbletop   For a V8 I would start with the regulator in place...   Jul 23 2010, 08:23 PM
Eric_Shea   If I were Scott or Steve I'd remove that imm...   Jul 25 2010, 08:37 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   So, I sent Renagade Hybrids an email concerning th...   Jul 26 2010, 08:21 PM


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