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> Real Creamsicle - questions on originality, keeping it 100% original
Rmvr53
post Mar 14 2010, 08:45 PM
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I've a question for the esteemed panel.
I have a real creamsicle (ok its my daughters) that was sitting too close to the house when it burned down. Most rubber/plastic items melted and I have replaced the lenses etc but I am at a quandry on the rubber nerfs on the front bumper. I am temped to remove them and repaint the bumper and leave them off since the lines of the car are much cleaner without them. As for the rubber top cap I have a fiberglass replica (Carl Rudolph) I'm installing in place of the rubber top.

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post Mar 15 2010, 03:50 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Jeff & George - keep it as Original, & it will be worth more to boot!

Mikey914 (Mark) under vendors on 914world sells som repro bumper tops F&R which look EXACTLY like OE - but are made with better non-porous rubber & SS innards that won't likel;y ever rust nor get tthos ugly "dimples". The OE stock ones were carbon steel with "not-always-so-closed-cell" polyurethane synthetic rubber, which allowed water to seep in & rust the mild steel inside causing those dimples & rusted studs, etc.

I saw in person one of his Repros on the Front (NLA in OE anymore anyway) & an OE on the rear of SoCalAndy's yellow 72 (see cars of the month here), & could NOT tell the difference. That convinced me not only to go with his repro front, but also for the rear for the better product reasons (over the OE one I'd already bought), for my early-73 914S/914-2.0 resto! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for refitting the AC - AA offers a modern AC running on the new R134 Freon & the compressor only robs 1-2 HP (vs. 5-10 on older VPC or DPD dealer add-ons). If you keep the AC - ask George at AA if you can retro-fit his "new" system into the original dealer option under the under-tire evap cover & into VPC under dash console in your/daughter's LE to keep it looking as delivered from the dealer, but running more efficiently, with the "safe" Freon & less HP lost. I looked into this route for mine using a DPD set-up to still look period correct for CW reasons - because lack of AC in SoCal was a problem for me, but George & others here advised me not to add it, since mine was not that way from a dealer originally.

If you have the original bill of sale &/or other docs from the dealer showing the VPC, then a CW could either keep that update, or reinstall the original VPC stuff (keep that if you do the update), and it would still pass muster IIRC at PCA concours stuff.

If you need a pair of the NLA front tits (rubber bumper guards) - I ended up with 3 pairs in VG-Excl condition, of which I'll be putting the best 9.9 of 10 set on mine, but the other two are almost as good at say 9.2 & 9.5 - with the former having had the studs replaced on the backside, but cosmetically great on the front (visible) side. I also have that NIB OE rear bumper rubber topper if you need one of those & don't want to use the repro. Otherwise PM Mark under member Mikey914 here for the repro front &/or rear. I wouldn't use the FG one on an LE or nice 914 or resto at all.

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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) with Jeff & George - keep it as Original, & it will be worth more to boot!

Mikey914 (Mark) under vendors on 914world sells som repro bumper tops F&R which look EXACTLY like OE - but are made with better non-porous rubber & SS innards that won't likel;y ever rust nor get tthos ugly "dimples". The OE stock ones were carbon steel with "not-always-so-closed-cell" polyurethane synthetic rubber, which allowed water to seep in & rust the mild steel inside causing those dimples & rusted studs, etc.

I saw in person one of his Repros on the Front (NLA in OE anymore anyway) & an OE on the rear of SoCalAndy's yellow 72 (see cars of the month here), & could NOT tell the difference. That convinced me not only to go with his repro front, but also for the rear for the better product reasons (over the OE one I'd already bought), for my early-73 914S/914-2.0 resto! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

As for refitting the AC - AA offers a modern AC running on the new R134 Freon & the compressor only robs 1-2 HP (vs. 5-10 on older VPC or DPD dealer add-ons). If you keep the AC - ask George at AA if you can retro-fit his "new" system into the original dealer option under the under-tire evap cover & into VPC under dash console in your/daughter's LE to keep it looking as delivered from the dealer, but running more efficiently, with the "safe" Freon & less HP lost. I looked into this route for mine using a DPD set-up to still look period correct for CW reasons - because lack of AC in SoCal was a problem for me, but George & others here advised me not to add it, since mine was not that way from a dealer originally.

If you have the original bill of sale &/or other docs from the dealer showing the VPC, then a CW could either keep that update, or reinstall the original VPC stuff (keep that if you do the update), and it would still pass muster IIRC at PCA concours stuff.

If you need a pair of the NLA front tits (rubber bumper guards) - I ended up with 3 pairs in VG-Excl condition, of which I'll be putting the best 9.9 of 10 set on mine, but the other two are almost as good at say 9.2 & 9.5 - with the former having had the studs replaced on the backside, but cosmetically great on the front (visible) side. I also have that NIB OE rear bumper rubber topper if you need one of those & don't want to use the repro. Otherwise PM Mark under member Mikey914 here for the repro front &/or rear. I wouldn't use the FG one on an LE or nice 914 or resto at all.

PM or email me if you want any of those parts above.

I will vouch for Mikey914's F & R bumper tops. I have one of each, awaiting my next 914 (not Fritz). The spec's and quality are dead nuts right on! You'd also be hard pressed (if possible) to detect them from the real. Have a couple of his other parts too & they are of the same quality. Mark is doing a really significant service to this genre.
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Rmvr53   Real Creamsicle - questions on originality   Mar 14 2010, 08:45 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Id keep it original in every way Bill. But leavin...   Mar 14 2010, 09:15 PM
Rmvr53   Id keep it original in every way Bill. But leavi...   Mar 14 2010, 09:27 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I of course totally agree with Jeff, don't was...   Mar 15 2010, 07:49 AM
Rmvr53   I of course totally agree with Jeff, don't wa...   Mar 15 2010, 07:53 AM
davep   No, there was no such thing as factory air for the...   Mar 15 2010, 11:37 AM
Rmvr53   No, there was no such thing as factory air for th...   Mar 15 2010, 12:20 PM
Tom_T   :agree: with Jeff & George - keep it as Origi...   Mar 15 2010, 03:50 PM
Pat Garvey   :agree: with Jeff & George - keep it as Orig...   Mar 21 2010, 06:39 PM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC :( ." far from original...   Mar 21 2010, 11:01 PM
Rmvr53   On my wife's bumblebee I went with no tits. ...   Mar 21 2010, 11:05 PM
Tom_T   On my wife's bumblebee I went with no tits. ...   Mar 21 2010, 11:06 PM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC. :( " far from original...   Mar 21 2010, 11:26 PM
Tom_T   GREAT personalized CA Blue Plates for that Bee t...   Mar 22 2010, 10:58 AM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC. :( " far from origina...   Mar 22 2010, 02:31 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='1290191' date='Mar 22 2...   Mar 22 2010, 03:03 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Tom_T' post='1290191' date='Mar 22 ...   Mar 22 2010, 07:23 PM
Tom_T   So, the asshat has to strike agin! I like you...   Mar 22 2010, 07:51 PM
MDG   Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more h...   Mar 23 2010, 10:40 AM
Tom_T   Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more ...   Mar 23 2010, 05:48 PM
Pat Garvey   FWIW, I was leering at a "sickle" on eBa...   Mar 23 2010, 07:37 PM
Tom_T   FWIW, I was leering at a "sickle" on eB...   Mar 23 2010, 07:54 PM
rdauenhauer   As another creamsicle owner Ill weigh in, Keep it ...   Mar 30 2010, 01:34 AM
rdauenhauer   here is a realated questionI know I could check bu...   Mar 30 2010, 01:36 AM
Tom_T   here is a realated questionI know I could check b...   Mar 30 2010, 03:04 AM
Rmvr53   here is a realated questionI know I could check ...   Mar 30 2010, 08:06 AM
Tom_T   Fronts are what I'll need. Nose of the car wa...   Mar 30 2010, 01:24 PM


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