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> Real Creamsicle - questions on originality, keeping it 100% original
Rmvr53
post Mar 14 2010, 08:45 PM
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I've a question for the esteemed panel.
I have a real creamsicle (ok its my daughters) that was sitting too close to the house when it burned down. Most rubber/plastic items melted and I have replaced the lenses etc but I am at a quandry on the rubber nerfs on the front bumper. I am temped to remove them and repaint the bumper and leave them off since the lines of the car are much cleaner without them. As for the rubber top cap I have a fiberglass replica (Carl Rudolph) I'm installing in place of the rubber top.

Thoughts?

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Michael N
post Mar 21 2010, 11:01 PM
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Deleted as not CW PC (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ." far from original & does not belong here!"
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post Mar 21 2010, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(Michael N @ Mar 21 2010, 10:01 PM) *

On my wife's bumblebee I went with no tits. I painted some plastic plugs to match then plugged the holes. I have clean bumper tits to install if ever desired but prefer the clean look with out them. Another benefit of not having them installed is no rust between the tits and bumper.







I like tits myself Mike! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
... i just prefer the original look, but what was that old joke about "...as useful as teats on a hog's A**..." !!??

GREAT personalized CA Blue Plates for that Bee too!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
With the Sept renewal sticker- I'm guessing it was first sold 9/73 - an early LE ??
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post Mar 21 2010, 11:26 PM
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post Mar 22 2010, 10:58 AM
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GREAT personalized CA Blue Plates for that Bee too!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
With the Sept renewal sticker- I'm guessing it was first sold 9/73 - an early LE ??


Original build in Feb 1974. I know the car was in California in 1976 from a gas receipt in the car from a 76 station in Mt View CA. I don't believe Phillip Wong's credit card # will work any more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Mike - is that your L80E next to the wife's Bee? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

If you look on your early CA Reg cards for the car (the heavier paperboard ones with the pinkish or reddish background areas) up to the early 80's or so, the "date first sold" box will give you the first sale date in CA (my current reg cards on our other cards show 00/00/YR without dates but the 914 goes back to 75 when I got it & shows full dates up to 80's).

If you don't have them, but it's still registered in CA (looks to me it is if those are still its plates), then you can go online to the CA DMV website & look for their pdf Information Request Form & request copies of their reg. records - perhaps back to 74. AAA may be able to get as much as they have on the computer database, but only the info request will get into microfilm records - if any are still available.

With a 2/74 build date on the VIN sticker - it could have either:
1.) been first sold new in Spring 74 with a standard blue plate & then upgraded to the personalized blue plates that are on there now at a later date & the Sept renewal reassigned per that date, or
2.) sold new outside of CA & then brought in later for those plates in 9/74 up to any Sept. before the switch to white plates in 84+/- , or
3.) it could've sat on a dealers lot until Sept. 74.

Does the chassis no. on the Karmann plate track when deciphered for week-month-day? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Mar 22 2010, 02:31 PM
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post Mar 22 2010, 03:03 PM
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Mike - is that your L80E next to the wife's Bee? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)




Yes. That is my baby.




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) .... & a 6 to boot! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

My early 73 2L was originally L80E & will be again with my resto, along with the original Beige interior, AG & PG options sets! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... maybe one day I'll get a /6 too!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Mar 22 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 22 2010, 03:03 PM) *

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 22 2010, 08:58 AM) *


Mike - is that your L80E next to the wife's Bee? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)




Yes. That is my baby.




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) .... & a 6 to boot! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

My early 73 2L was originally L80E & will be again with my resto, along with the original Beige interior, AG & PG options sets! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ... maybe one day I'll get a /6 too!!?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


So, the asshat has to strike agin!
I like your 914, but it is far from original & does not belong here!
Further posts will be barred. Sorry, just doing my job.
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post Mar 22 2010, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Mar 22 2010, 06:23 PM) *

So, the asshat has to strike agin!
I like your 914, but it is far from original & does not belong here!
Further posts will be barred. Sorry, just doing my job.
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Hey Pat - Bill F who started this topic above was actually asking for CW help on originality of what to do with his/daughter's LE Cremesicle after fire damage. Our initial posts were in line with keeping it original & undoing some FG bumper toppers to do so.

Bill - for the record - I would strongly suggest that you keep your/daughter's LE as original, & folks on here can help you source parts as needed for it, as well as the ones which I offered FS. The LE's are just so rare, that it's value will be highest if maintained in factory original condition.

Pat - IMHO - rather just cutting off this guys request for help due to various non-originality opinions of other responders - I really think it would be far more helpful for you to respond to him as an originality expert in a supportive way, on keeping the 74 MY LE's OE F&R rubber tits & either OEM or Mikey914's repro rubber toppers F&R on those bumpers, rather than some of the other non-original suggestions here.

As opposed to the Bumblebee's approach above, which while it's a good looking 914 - it is not as original. Moreover, he did state he has the F&R tits for somebody to put back on & only used color matched caps to plugs the holes - rather than as some do & change out to backdated 70-72 bumpers, which I would classify a not easily reversible change (unless those parts a likewise saved). And then his L80E /6 is pretty close to original though - even still has the snowplow rear valence! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Be careful Pat on how hard you come down on folks, lest I let it out of the bag about those not yet available in 72 MY Mahles you want for Fritz! ... do you still have that shorty 73-76 rear valence on him!? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 23 2010, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 22 2010, 09:51 PM) *

Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more helpful for you to respond to him as an originality expert in a supportive way . . .


He did.

Pat responded to the OP's question and weighed in on the quality of Mark's stuff (I agree 100% BTW - all of his products are top notch) I believe what Pat is referring to here is the current tendency by some to veer off the original posters question and turn the thread around.

I too think Mike's LE and six are fantastic looking cars. I'll take them both please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Really though, the photos of them; and your ensuing discussion on those photos; and references to your upcoming resto; and what you plan on doing . . . have nothing to do with Bill's original point and are basically a hijack of Bill's thread.

And Bill, with a car as rare as yours stay as original as you possibly can my friend.

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post Mar 23 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(MDG @ Mar 23 2010, 09:40 AM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ Mar 22 2010, 09:51 PM) *

Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more helpful for you to respond to him as an originality expert in a supportive way . . .


He did.

Pat responded to the OP's question and weighed in on the quality of Mark's stuff (I agree 100% BTW - all of his products are top notch) I believe what Pat is referring to here is the current tendency by some to veer off the original posters question and turn the thread around.

I too think Mike's LE and six are fantastic looking cars. I'll take them both please (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Really though, the photos of them; and your ensuing discussion on those photos; and references to your upcoming resto; and what you plan on doing . . . have nothing to do with Bill's original point and are basically a hijack of Bill's thread.

And Bill, with a car as rare as yours stay as original as you possibly can my friend.

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Point taken - too easy to get sidetracking talking about what we love! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Rmvr53   Real Creamsicle - questions on originality   Mar 14 2010, 08:45 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   Id keep it original in every way Bill. But leavin...   Mar 14 2010, 09:15 PM
Rmvr53   Id keep it original in every way Bill. But leavi...   Mar 14 2010, 09:27 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   I of course totally agree with Jeff, don't was...   Mar 15 2010, 07:49 AM
Rmvr53   I of course totally agree with Jeff, don't wa...   Mar 15 2010, 07:53 AM
davep   No, there was no such thing as factory air for the...   Mar 15 2010, 11:37 AM
Rmvr53   No, there was no such thing as factory air for th...   Mar 15 2010, 12:20 PM
Tom_T   :agree: with Jeff & George - keep it as Origi...   Mar 15 2010, 03:50 PM
Pat Garvey   :agree: with Jeff & George - keep it as Orig...   Mar 21 2010, 06:39 PM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC :( ." far from original...   Mar 21 2010, 11:01 PM
Rmvr53   On my wife's bumblebee I went with no tits. ...   Mar 21 2010, 11:05 PM
Tom_T   On my wife's bumblebee I went with no tits. ...   Mar 21 2010, 11:06 PM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC. :( " far from original...   Mar 21 2010, 11:26 PM
Tom_T   GREAT personalized CA Blue Plates for that Bee t...   Mar 22 2010, 10:58 AM
Michael N   Deleted as not CW PC. :( " far from origina...   Mar 22 2010, 02:31 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Tom_T' post='1290191' date='Mar 22 2...   Mar 22 2010, 03:03 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Tom_T' post='1290191' date='Mar 22 ...   Mar 22 2010, 07:23 PM
Tom_T   So, the asshat has to strike agin! I like you...   Mar 22 2010, 07:51 PM
MDG   Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more h...   Mar 23 2010, 10:40 AM
Tom_T   Pat . . . . I really think it would be far more ...   Mar 23 2010, 05:48 PM
Pat Garvey   FWIW, I was leering at a "sickle" on eBa...   Mar 23 2010, 07:37 PM
Tom_T   FWIW, I was leering at a "sickle" on eB...   Mar 23 2010, 07:54 PM
rdauenhauer   As another creamsicle owner Ill weigh in, Keep it ...   Mar 30 2010, 01:34 AM
rdauenhauer   here is a realated questionI know I could check bu...   Mar 30 2010, 01:36 AM
Tom_T   here is a realated questionI know I could check b...   Mar 30 2010, 03:04 AM
Rmvr53   here is a realated questionI know I could check ...   Mar 30 2010, 08:06 AM
Tom_T   Fronts are what I'll need. Nose of the car wa...   Mar 30 2010, 01:24 PM


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