OT: Any Fluid Handling experts here?, Small scale engineering help requested |
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OT: Any Fluid Handling experts here?, Small scale engineering help requested |
lotus_65 |
Apr 8 2010, 10:08 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Hi good people, you are the best resource I have at hand, so I'm throwing this out to you all:
At work, I/we utilize 2-2.5 gallon pressure pots that hold 2 similar liquid (gloss & matte) materials (basically glue) that we use to coat our products with an hvlp gun using 10lbs pressure in our spray booth. Some clients want a combination of the 2 coatings to create a 3rd semi-gloss/satin finish. Best case scenario is that I could mix/blend the 2 in-line somehow, because we could easily customize the coatings per the client's request. It's logical to me to relate these 2 liquids as something similar to hot and cold water, and I want to be able to coat my products with hot, warm or cold liquid using a manifold to dial the percentages. As I'm writing this, I feel like it would be ideal to have some type of ball valve at the gun, receiving the two fluid lines, and allowing me to dial the mix right there. Does anyone know what I'm trying to say, and have a direction to share? Thanks- paul |
zonedoubt |
Apr 8 2010, 05:45 PM
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Canadian Member Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 14-May 03 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 696 Region Association: Canada |
Ball valves aren't ideal for flow control unless they have a characterized ball or seat. A multi-turn valve like a needle or globe is best.
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lotus_65 |
Apr 8 2010, 08:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
Ball valves aren't ideal for flow control unless they have a characterized ball or seat. A multi-turn valve like a needle or globe is best. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/051103-stupid4.gif) will you please give me more. diagrams on a website? but i would guess the glue will set up in any needle situation, we couldn't use the fluid quick-release due to material drying. thanks |
zonedoubt |
Apr 11 2010, 12:38 PM
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Canadian Member Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 14-May 03 From: Vancouver, BC Member No.: 696 Region Association: Canada |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/051103-stupid4.gif) will you please give me more. diagrams on a website? Characterized ball valve has a V-notch or other pattern machined into the ball or its seat. This allows for a better flow characteristic for control applications. Another problem with ball valves is that media (e.g. paint) can get trapped in the cavities in the valve body. This could be a concern for cross contamination when changing media. There are solutions to address this such as cavity fillers but then you're into a specialty product. I don't know paint sprayer systems but I know valves (my job). |
rwilner |
Apr 11 2010, 06:31 PM
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No Ghosts in the Machine Group: Members Posts: 953 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Boston, MA Member No.: 11,530 Region Association: North East States |
Another problem with ball valves is that media (e.g. paint) can get trapped in the cavities in the valve body. This could be a concern for cross contamination when changing media. There are solutions to address this such as cavity fillers but then you're into a specialty product. I don't know paint sprayer systems but I know valves (my job). This man speaks the truth. What about diaphragm (or membrane for your EU folks) valves? Multi turn, cleanable, AND he can simply toss and replace the diaphragms if/when they get too contaminated. |
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