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> Modifying early 911 muffler, Opinions needed
dion9146
post Apr 20 2010, 07:52 AM
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Hey guys, thought I'd ask the 914 crowd for an opinion....I know, that can be dangerous.

Check out this thread I started over on the bird board. I'm looking for a nice, lower rumble using a stock early 2 in, 1 out muffler. I do not want to modify it like the early 2 out sport style, Yes, that's too loud for what I'm looking for. I'd like to stop setting off car alarms in my client's parking garage.....

So before I start cutting, I wanted to get your opinions on what and how much I should cut. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911...ons-wanted.html

Thanks,

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post Apr 21 2010, 09:40 AM
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Good feedback Ron. But if you also look at the suggested mods to the solid divider cuts in the original article when installing the 2-out sport pipes into the lower chamber, it makes no sense at all. Why even modify the upper chamber when the exit is welded shut, and all of the exhaust pressure is entering AND exiting in the lower chamber?

That's why I got creative with the spraypaint brush. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Apr 21 2010, 02:54 PM
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QUOTE(dion9146 @ Apr 21 2010, 07:40 AM) *

Good feedback Ron. But if you also look at the suggested mods to the solid divider cuts in the original article when installing the 2-out sport pipes into the lower chamber, it makes no sense at all. Why even modify the upper chamber when the exit is welded shut, and all of the exhaust pressure is entering AND exiting in the lower chamber?


I agree until after a little totally theoretical noodlin', I figure they cut on stuff until either the back-pressure readings were matched to the carbs or, less likely, they were trying to keep the same approximate volume in the canister so the timber was what they were shooting for.

The later sounds more like Ferrari than Porsche, but a smaller cavity will definitely sound different. The original muffler resonated out lots of the pulses and kept drone to a minimum. The 2-out sport muffler definitely has a 4000 RPM drone in a 2.7L motor. I don't know about the current 3.6L. I have SuperTrapps now anyway so my 2-in 1-out has been in the attic for the last 11 years.

Frankly, the sport muffler on a 2.x Liter Porsche motor is one of my favorite sounds in the whole world. No matter what I do I'll never achieve it with this 3.6. I can't even experiment anymore. An auxilliary oil cooler is in between the pipes now.

The way you have it drawn may be the bomb. Be sure to let us know! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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ITBs and a dual-in dual-out DANSK muffler will give you that sound.

Of course, you're not just modifying your exhaust for the sound of it, right? You're doing this to get some performance gain? Most anything is an improvement over stock.

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The later sounds more like Ferrari than Porsche, but a smaller cavity will definitely sound different. The original muffler resonated out lots of the pulses and kept drone to a minimum. The 2-out sport muffler definitely has a 4000 RPM drone in a 2.7L motor. I don't know about the current 3.6L. I have SuperTrapps now anyway so my 2-in 1-out has been in the attic for the last 11 years.

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dion9146   Modifying early 911 muffler   Apr 20 2010, 07:52 AM
dion9146   really, nothing from the 914 crowd?   Apr 21 2010, 05:47 AM
pcar916   I have both cars and had an early 911 muffler in m...   Apr 21 2010, 08:09 AM
Rico Suave   Gutting the muff, adding dual outlets as above BUT...   Apr 21 2010, 08:19 AM
dion9146   Thanks guys. If I put dual outlet on, I would pro...   Apr 21 2010, 08:39 AM
pcar916   Based on the airflow, and potential changes in pr...   Apr 21 2010, 09:21 AM
Rico Suave   I run a Supertrapp on the end of mine. It control...   Apr 21 2010, 08:46 AM
dion9146   Good feedback Ron. But if you also look at the su...   Apr 21 2010, 09:40 AM
pcar916   Good feedback Ron. But if you also look at the s...   Apr 21 2010, 02:54 PM
Brando   ITBs and a dual-in dual-out DANSK muffler will giv...   May 1 2010, 11:18 AM
dion9146   ITBs and a dual-in dual-out DANSK muffler will gi...   May 1 2010, 02:10 PM
Eric_Shea   Here's mine: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/upl...   Apr 21 2010, 10:04 AM
dion9146   3. I used 2" pipe. You're local Midas...   Apr 21 2010, 11:59 AM
ArtechnikA   When I did mine back in the day I just hacked into...   Apr 21 2010, 10:16 AM
dion9146   When I did mine back in the day I just hacked int...   Apr 21 2010, 12:01 PM
ArtechnikA   When I did mine back in the day I just hacked in...   Apr 21 2010, 05:40 PM
Eric_Shea   It would have to be running for that... :D Dron...   Apr 21 2010, 04:59 PM
r_towle   I have a brand new Bursch muffler for an early 911...   Apr 21 2010, 05:30 PM
dion9146   I have a brand new Bursch muffler for an early 91...   Apr 21 2010, 05:50 PM
Racer Chris   You're looking for a muffler with a deep tone,...   Apr 21 2010, 09:02 PM
dion9146   Thanks Chris. Beautiful headers and muffler, but ...   Apr 22 2010, 05:50 AM
dion9146   OK, I was looking at it again last night. Call me...   Apr 22 2010, 06:48 AM
Eric_Shea   Call me confused. Ummmm... looks like that...   Apr 22 2010, 08:07 AM
dion9146   Call me confused. Ummmm... looks like that...   Apr 22 2010, 09:17 AM
dion9146   I welded for 2 hours last night.... Should have i...   Apr 23 2010, 05:25 AM
pcar916   I with you on making things myself. That's wha...   Apr 23 2010, 07:14 AM
dion9146   I finally finished the muffler mods. The details ...   May 1 2010, 10:48 AM


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