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| GTeener |
Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
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May this be a lesson to us all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
Driving from Fair Oaks/Sacramento to Vacaville last Sunday. Filled the tank up before leaving town (1/2 tank of Premium gas). During freeway drive, started noticing and getting concerned by the rising oil temp and falling oil pressure. Peaked at 260+ oil temp and the 30 psi oil pressure reading on the gauges. The engine made a sputter crackle sound like it was running rich at one point in slow traffic at the Hwy 50 & Hwy 80 merge. There was a puff of dark smoke upon acceleration. The engine didn't stop sputtering and there's been a knocking sound ever since, but there's no dark smoke. Lost my go power too. Feels like it isn't in the proper gear or something. Possibly missing a cylinder?? I stopped for lunch in Davis to let the engine cool off and stretch the dog. Drove some more without any noticeable improvement in the temp or power situation. Stopped at a 76 station in Vacaville to look more closely. There is oil in the tank and it looks clean, but the level is above the fill dot. No distributor wires are loose. Engine bay looks clean...No obvious oil leaks/spray. Got flatbed towed the rest of the way home by AAA. Best I can tell, the oil may not be circulating properly. Best guess is that the thermostat isn't opening or there is a block in the oil cooler line somewhere but don't know why. Leamon Stansell (HealToe914) did the oil cooler setup work in May 2007 (pictures below). The car hadn't been driven much since. Half the tank of gas was 7 mos old (Premium) when I hit the freeway on Sunday. Waiting for Rich Walton at Jerry Woods Enterprises to give me the go ahead to have the car towed to them for further diagnosis and repair but thought it *might* be worth getting *the group's* opinions/experiences on the subject. Attached image(s)
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| charliew |
May 15 2010, 11:06 AM
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I'm not a 6 porsche guy and don't think I ever will be. There is just not enough cheap parts around for me to ever consider it. But, I do know auto mechanics and the front oil cooler is probably more wrong than right. Get rid of the 90 degree fittings, go to better bigger lines, change the air exhaust path, it needs to be 30 to 40 % minimum bigger for exhaust than the front intake area opening, especially without a fan. Probably for what you want the factory 2.2 cooling is more than adequate. I also think maybe the cooler was added to try and fix a already existing problem and may have made it worse. I think the previous owner knew more than you give him credit for but you might have still gotten a decent deal. I will be happily surprised if this deal is done for 7k. Sorry about the whole deal but it can have a happy ending, you will end up knowing what you have and it should last a long time. I'm too hard headed to try to own hotrods and trust someone else to do the work. I think unless you have unlimited cash flow you should just get a factory newer low mileage hotrod. I know this is not a place to say this but the non mechanic, middle income guy or lady is going to really do without, to support a high mileage older 6 porsche unless it's driven a small amount and really monitored closely. You will lead a life of always needing a honest high end shop to do your repairs and maintenance. If your earned hourly rate is about three times the hourly shop rate plus the shops parts cost you might be able to keep up. Just in my opinion I think the porsche six is really neat and has a beautiful sound but not something that is cost efficient compared to new high performance stuff.
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GTeener My front oil cooler setup -- why's it failing? Apr 28 2010, 03:59 PM
SLITS Gwen, it looks like a MOCAL thermostat in the thir... Apr 28 2010, 04:04 PM
GTeener
Gwen, it looks like a MOCAL thermostat in the thi... Apr 28 2010, 04:14 PM
Root_Werks I'm starting to think a failed(ing) oil pump.
... Apr 28 2010, 04:05 PM
SLITS Long lines don't create that great of restrict... Apr 28 2010, 04:12 PM
76-914
Long lines don't create that great of restric... Apr 28 2010, 08:50 PM
pcar916 Bummer <_< Hope it's easy and cheap.
I... Apr 28 2010, 04:28 PM
rwilner
I run 18 qts of synthetic oil.
Holy Crap!... Apr 28 2010, 07:47 PM
pcar916 ... Also, you have the oil inlet (on the front coo... Apr 28 2010, 04:34 PM
Eric_Shea I have a new MoCal if that's what's needed... Apr 28 2010, 04:37 PM
Dr Evil pcar, I have heard that putting your thermostat in... Apr 28 2010, 04:53 PM
pcar916
pcar, I have heard that putting your thermostat i... Apr 28 2010, 05:15 PM
GTeener
pcar, I have heard that putting your thermostat i... Apr 28 2010, 05:18 PM
ConeDodger What would a pulled head stud do? Apr 28 2010, 05:25 PM
siverson I think this is easy... You need much more air int... Apr 28 2010, 05:26 PM
GTeener
I think this is easy... You need much more air in... Apr 28 2010, 06:47 PM
9146986 I'd respectfully disagree with Steve.
Just ru... Apr 28 2010, 06:53 PM
SLITS My assumption was that the cooler was installed pr... Apr 28 2010, 07:38 PM
GTeener
My assumption was that the cooler was installed p... Apr 28 2010, 08:48 PM
DanT
My assumption was that the cooler was installed ... Apr 28 2010, 08:51 PM
sww914 I think (for now) that the oil temperature is a sy... Apr 28 2010, 09:02 PM
jt914-6 I agree with things that have been said:
1. Liste... Apr 28 2010, 10:11 PM
Justinp71 Definately sounds like your oil system was clogged... Apr 28 2010, 10:37 PM
PRS914-6 Easy to diagnose.....
Fire it up and wait until i... Apr 28 2010, 11:15 PM
campbellcj I know in my car when I had the 2.2S-ish engine, t... Apr 29 2010, 12:22 AM
Heeltoe914 Hi Gwen sorry to hear about you’re car acting up... Apr 29 2010, 01:05 AM
GTeener
Hi Gwen sorry to hear about you’re car acting u... Apr 29 2010, 08:57 AM
SirAndy
Apparently the biggest lesson here is that I shou... Apr 29 2010, 11:06 AM
GTeener
Apparently the biggest lesson here is that I sho... Apr 29 2010, 11:17 AM
Heeltoe914
My assumption was that the cooler was installed ... Apr 29 2010, 01:15 AM
turboman808 I didn't see anyone mention this and was wonde... Apr 29 2010, 06:55 AM
SLITS
I didn't see anyone mention this and was wond... Apr 29 2010, 07:18 AM
McMark :agree: with Ron. Looking at fuel related issues ... Apr 29 2010, 11:41 AM
dion9146 Lots of good info and suggestions and I probably c... Apr 29 2010, 12:09 PM
GTeener More pix of my car config. Apr 29 2010, 12:23 PM
GTeener Engine bay pix Apr 29 2010, 12:24 PM
GTeener :type: Apr 29 2010, 12:25 PM
Eric_Shea Trunk pix - I don't think your exit wounds are... Apr 29 2010, 12:40 PM
rick 918-S Gwen, I didn't read where you tried to start a... Apr 29 2010, 12:55 PM
GTeener
Gwen, I didn't read where you tried to start ... Apr 29 2010, 12:59 PM
rick 918-S I'm wondering if the carbs are fouled or the f... Apr 29 2010, 03:56 PM
GTeener
I'm wondering if the carbs are fouled or the ... Apr 29 2010, 05:08 PM
J P Stein You've covered the spectrum on bad noises, fr... Apr 29 2010, 05:32 PM
GTeener
You've covered the spectrum on bad noises, f... Apr 29 2010, 05:54 PM

J P Stein
You've covered the spectrum on bad noises, ... Apr 29 2010, 06:04 PM
GTeener So...JWE is really booked up and can't take my... May 7 2010, 02:50 PM
john rogers In looking at the pictures I had several questions... May 7 2010, 03:25 PM
GTeener
In looking at the pictures I had several question... May 7 2010, 03:31 PM
rick 918-S If I lived closer I would be right over! Someo... May 7 2010, 03:37 PM
GTeener
If I lived closer I would be right over! Some... May 7 2010, 03:38 PM
campbellcj Maybe Bontempi (HPH) can help? May 7 2010, 04:23 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT Just curious, why do you need a front cooler? Is y... May 7 2010, 04:30 PM
DanT I was going to say that JWE is not the only shop w... May 7 2010, 04:31 PM
kg6dxn Call Canepa Design in Scotts Valley. They may be a... May 7 2010, 05:36 PM
SLITS One thing I didn't reveal in this discussion w... May 7 2010, 08:32 PM
rick 918-S
One thing I didn't reveal in this discussion ... May 7 2010, 09:30 PM
john rogers If it were me, I'd pull all the plugs and do a... May 7 2010, 10:15 PM
GTeener So I've got Tom Amon coming Friday afternoon t... May 11 2010, 05:16 PM
Cap'n Krusty Having read through this (Hi, Gwen!), I have a... May 11 2010, 05:41 PM
GTeener
Having read through this (Hi, Gwen!), I have ... May 11 2010, 05:45 PM
elmonte You're in good hands with Tom. He's done w... May 11 2010, 05:43 PM
GTeener
You're in good hands with Tom. He's done ... May 11 2010, 05:47 PM
GTeener :barf: :headbang:
Metal flakes in the oil filte... May 14 2010, 07:09 PM
GTeener :barf: :headbang:
Metal flakes in the oil filte... May 14 2010, 07:10 PM
RobW
:barf: :headbang:
Metal flakes in the oil filt... May 14 2010, 07:16 PM
GTeener
:barf: :headbang:
Metal flakes in the oil fil... May 14 2010, 07:20 PM
RobW
[quote name='RobW' post='1318430' date='May 14 20... May 14 2010, 07:22 PM
ArtechnikA
What I need now is a lot of Single Malt Scotch ... May 15 2010, 06:20 AM
DanT ouch....
have you had any contact with the interim... May 14 2010, 07:14 PM
GTeener
ouch....
have you had any contact with the interi... May 14 2010, 07:17 PM
GTeener Current plan:
rebuild bottom end
replace MFI w/ CI... May 14 2010, 07:16 PM
DanT what is the reasoning behind replacing the MFI wit... May 14 2010, 07:19 PM
DanT 2x May 14 2010, 07:19 PM
DanT you might be able to find a complete 2.7 for less ... May 14 2010, 07:21 PM
RobW
you might be able to find a complete 2.7 for less... May 14 2010, 07:24 PM
campbellcj Sorry to hear about the carnage!
I have a m... May 14 2010, 11:54 PM
GTeener I :wub: Ya'll.
I'm going to just let Tom ... May 15 2010, 12:38 AM
koozy You are in good hands with Tom. Wishing your car a... May 15 2010, 01:20 AM
rick 918-S I feel your pain. I brok a cam shaft on the 928 en... May 15 2010, 06:19 AM
campbellcj Ah....Rich beat me to it. One small benefit of bei... May 15 2010, 10:22 AM
ArtechnikA
Ah....Rich beat me to it. One small benefit of be... May 15 2010, 11:11 AM
campbellcj
The cam drive is a factor but not a huge one. Un... May 15 2010, 11:54 AM
ArtechnikA
Good point - I kinda forgot about injectors, LOL.... May 15 2010, 01:45 PM
campbellcj
Good point - I kinda forgot about injectors, LOL... May 15 2010, 02:14 PM
ArtechnikA
...I will be happily surprised if this deal is do... May 15 2010, 11:18 AM
Cap'n Krusty Gonna be an eyeopener coming up. CIS requires mil... May 15 2010, 01:40 PM
ArtechnikA
...2.4 CIS heads, the ones you're gonna need,... May 15 2010, 02:43 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT Why would you get rid of your MFI? :confused: It... May 15 2010, 02:59 PM
carr914
Why would you get rid of your MFI? :confused: It... May 16 2010, 04:58 AM
pcar916 How many folks are still percolatin' that can ... May 16 2010, 08:40 AM
ArtechnikA
How many folks are still percolatin' that can... May 16 2010, 09:05 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT
How many folks are still percolatin' that can... May 16 2010, 12:26 PM
Cap'n Krusty I just read this whole thread. Wanders a bit, huh... May 16 2010, 10:09 AM
GTeener So John, just to pullover to the side a moment, wh... May 16 2010, 10:19 AM
ArtechnikA
So John, just to pullover to the side a moment, w... May 16 2010, 01:15 PM
burton73 E or S it does not matter. The E has a faster ¼ m... May 16 2010, 12:14 PM
campbellcj
E or S it does not matter. The E has a faster ¼ ... May 16 2010, 12:19 PM
charliew S parts cost more right? May 16 2010, 12:21 PM
burton73
S parts cost more right?
Not true. All factory... May 16 2010, 12:28 PM![]() ![]() |
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