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| VaccaRabite |
 May 17 2010, 08:57 AM
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My 2056 is getting elevated oil temps on the freeway. I am using a high volume pump, and seeing about 40 pounds of pressure on the freeway when my oil is up to temp.
What I think is happening is that there is too much pressure, and the oil is not being pumped through the oil cooler due to the check valve closing the passage. However, this is just a guess, as I don't have any way to test it. All I know is that when I am driving at revs, oil temp goes up and if I keep driving at higher revs the oil temps stay up). if I drop revs, oil temps fall back into place, but I can't do that on the freeway without building a lot of head heat. Before I go through the trouble and expense of adding an oil cooler, I want to make sure that I have checked out the simple fixes first. What do I do to make sure oil if going through the oil cooler? What is the point where pressure cuts off passage through the cooler? All tin is in place, and fan housing flaps divert air over the oil cooler 100% of the time (no thermostat in place, so the flaps are always set to cool). Zach |
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| 70_914 |
May 18 2010, 07:03 PM
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Too much oil pressure could cause excess heat because the oil would be flowing too quickly through the cooler for it to take enough heat out of the oil.
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| realred914 |
May 19 2010, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(70_914 @ May 18 2010, 06:03 PM)  Too much oil pressure could cause excess heat because the oil would be flowing too quickly through the cooler for it to take enough heat out of the oil. too much pressure causes the oil to flow more quikly???? seems that is the passage was blocked (ie no flow ) the pressure would really get high, the opposite of what your saying. if the oil flow had no resistance and no restiction, the pressure would be low and the flow rate very high. flow rate and pressure are not always corrolated this way. I high flow rate may give better cooling than a low flow rate. if the flow rate is too slow, the heat flux is too low and less cooling is done. remeber the heat exchanger is most efficinet when there is a big temperature delta. I say there maybe an optimal flow verses heat rejection. but it will not be the highest flow nor the lowest flow rate |
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Vacca Rabite too much oil pressure? May 17 2010, 08:57 AM
r_towle Interesting issue.
I dont know the pressure cut o... May 17 2010, 09:00 AM Vacca Rabite Yep, the little flaps are in place.
And I should m... May 17 2010, 09:03 AM r_towle I have always seen high oil temps at 65 mph up to ... May 17 2010, 09:06 AM
Vacca Rabite
We used a simple sandwich adapter and a 2*10 inch... May 17 2010, 09:11 AM
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I could try blocking the vents at the bottom of t... May 17 2010, 02:06 PM jhadler I forgot who originally mentioned the cavitation i... May 17 2010, 02:32 PM Lennies914 Zach,
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I would certainly run a thrmostate bellows. it... May 17 2010, 11:42 AM Vacca Rabite Thanks RealRed.
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40 PSI is perfect on the highway, its not high en... May 17 2010, 11:36 AM yeahmag I haven't gotten a solid answer on this, but I... May 17 2010, 11:43 AM HAM Inc You need to keep in mind that all of the oil does ... May 17 2010, 11:54 AM Vacca Rabite
You need to keep in mind that all of the oil does... May 17 2010, 12:14 PM jhadler
...Tight piston clearances will cause high oil te... May 17 2010, 12:53 PM tradisrad I'm curious how high oil pressure makes the oi... May 17 2010, 11:57 AM DanT When I built my 2056 I did away with the thermosta... May 17 2010, 12:20 PM realred914
When I built my 2056 I did away with the thermost... May 18 2010, 09:30 AM HAM Inc Zach the pressure bypass drops the pressure in the... May 17 2010, 12:31 PM Vacca Rabite Okay. Bear with me, as I am just thinking through... May 17 2010, 12:39 PM mightyohm What oil temps are you actually seeing? May 17 2010, 12:52 PM Vacca Rabite
What oil temps are you actually seeing?
235-245 ... May 17 2010, 12:54 PM Spoke I thought cavitation was in respect to closing off... May 17 2010, 03:00 PM underthetire Wouldn't blocking them off be the same as if y... May 17 2010, 03:45 PM HAM Inc
The stiffer the spring the higher the oil pressur... May 17 2010, 04:37 PM Vacca Rabite [quote name='HAM Inc' date='May 17 201... May 17 2010, 07:55 PM AndrewP Do you know if your oil temp gauge is accurate?
A... May 17 2010, 05:32 PM r_towle Do you think your header might be adding heat to t... May 17 2010, 06:47 PM r_towle I had a decent idea for your header leak issue.
C... May 17 2010, 08:14 PM HAM Inc
Zach that is propbably in the 10lbs/1000rpm... May 18 2010, 07:53 AM Vacca Rabite
What is the history of your O.E. cooler?
Came w... May 18 2010, 08:09 AM r_towle
What is the history of your O.E. cooler?
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Start your car and put your hand down by the vent... May 18 2010, 01:53 PM Cevan
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Too much oil pressure could cause excess heat bec... May 18 2010, 07:40 PM 70_914
Too much oil pressure could cause excess heat be... May 18 2010, 11:24 PM 70_914
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Sorry to hijack the thread discussing basic therm... May 19 2010, 08:35 AM Chris Hamilton If you wanted Example A to apply to this situation... May 19 2010, 12:46 PM Racer Chris
but the bottom line is that oil pressure is not ... May 19 2010, 04:12 PM 70_914
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