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| kenshapiro2002 |
 May 17 2010, 01:37 PM
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The car is a 1970 914 that was converted to 5 lug using late 80s/early90s 911 front end parts. Not sure if the A arms were changed over and whether the ball joints I need are 914 or 911 parts (think they're 914, but not sure). Can I get these ball joints out using non-impact, hand tools, or should I just pay a local Porsche wrench to do it? Also, I thought the retainer nut on the bottom of the joint was supposed to be facing the front. Mine is the opposite. Does it matter?
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| Dr Evil |
May 25 2010, 04:19 PM
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Send me your transmission! Group: Members Posts: 23,041 Joined: 21-November 03 From: Loveland, OH 45140 Member No.: 1,372 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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The new style strut housing had the wrong fastener (bolt) retaining the ball joint which was the correct type (one for a wedge pin). The opposite was true for the other strut housing. Is this now clear? Split, no split, I dont get WTF you are asking about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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| kenshapiro2002 |
May 25 2010, 04:39 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,469 Joined: 23-July 09 From: Bawlmer, MD Member No.: 10,598 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Alright...tried to call you but you were gone...how dare you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I talked to Jonathan who understood my split/no split question. Forget the ball joints which are now in the trash. My right side strut, has no split at the bottom of the strut...the strut will not "squeeze " shut on the shaft of a ball joint. What holds the ball joint in place and keeps it from moving up or down, would be a tapered pin, and the nut the secures the tapered pin in place. It did in fact, have a tapered pin in there though it was not fully drawn in for some reason...probably because it was the wrong ball joint in there? This, in my new education is a later style.
On the left side, the bottom of the strut is split. The method for securing a ball joint shaft in this "early" style is compression (hence the split in the shaft). Usually, 1/2 of the bolt hole is threaded and the bolt simply uses those threads to tighten (close that split) up the split and hold onto the ball joint shaft. My threads are non existent for some reason, so I'm going to use a longer bolt with a nut on the outside. I'll use a newer style BJ on the right side, and an older style on the left side. Do I have this correct now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) QUOTE(Dr Evil @ May 25 2010, 06:19 PM)  The new style strut housing had the wrong fastener (bolt) retaining the ball joint which was the correct type (one for a wedge pin). The opposite was true for the other strut housing. Is this now clear? Split, no split, I dont get WTF you are asking about (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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kenshapiro2002 I.D. My Ball Joint Please? May 17 2010, 01:37 PM
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What's ... May 31 2010, 03:03 PM kenshapiro2002 Cap'n. As always, much easier than I'd ima... Jun 1 2010, 08:49 AM |
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