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> Painting questions, order of operations for a long restore
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post Jun 15 2010, 11:00 AM
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I have been looking for the appropriate order fo oprerations to use as I restore my car. It will be a long process of fixing one area priming and moving on. My understanding right now is as follows(I encourage any comments):

These steps are during the fixing process:
1. Rust convertor (Ospho or POR15) (will these work under epoxy primer?)
2. Epoxy Primer (may not go well over ospho - should this be a rattle can of etching primer if so who makes a good one? (A rattle can would make things easier since I am doing small areas and I don't want to load up a paint gun every time I need to spray a few square feet)

Then once every thing is fixed:
3. Sand/media/baking soda blast car (leaning toward baking soda)
4. Etching wash primer (is this necessary if I blast the car)
5. Epoxy Primer
6. Basecoat (thinking of using Deltron 2000 but not really sure if PPG is the right answer)
7. Clearcoat

Does this look overly complicated?
Is PPG a good brand? I have also looked at Sikkens but can't find much about their options on their web page.

I have been reading many of the popular rustorations posts but it is often hard to follow what order they are doing things in.


Any help will be greatly appreciated,
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post Jun 16 2010, 07:44 AM
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No offense intended, but if you want to do a good job, you need to take a step back and do some more homework before you get into this.
Ospho, Metal Ready and other acids will etch. The etching primer is redundant. Go to a paint shop and explain what you are attempting to do, they will set you up with what you need. And, from my own experience, doing things piecemeal and dragging out the resto will double your cost and probably diminish your end results. I say this because I have experienced it. If you are intending to repaint panel by panel with metallic, the panel will never match. Please, for your own good, stop now and rethink this.
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post Jun 16 2010, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(bobhasissues @ Jun 16 2010, 09:44 AM) *

No offense intended, but if you want to do a good job, you need to take a step back and do some more homework before you get into this.
Ospho, Metal Ready and other acids will etch. The etching primer is redundant. Go to a paint shop and explain what you are attempting to do, they will set you up with what you need. And, from my own experience, doing things piecemeal and dragging out the resto will double your cost and probably diminish your end results. I say this because I have experienced it. If you are intending to repaint panel by panel with metallic, the panel will never match. Please, for your own good, stop now and rethink this.


My goal right now was to repair the obvious rust (hell hole, firewall, floors) and then get the repairs protected. Once that was done (which may take years at the rate I'm moving) blast the car, repair any aditional issue I might find and repaint the whole thing in one shot.

I do like PRS914-6's idea of blasting it all now but at least in the short term I am trying to spand as little as I can (with the economy in the toilet and a limited number of people coming to request my services).
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obscurity   Painting questions   Jun 15 2010, 11:00 AM
McMark   You will not get any significant rust in the repa...   Jun 15 2010, 12:59 PM
SirAndy   1. Rust convertor (Ospho or POR15) (will these w...   Jun 15 2010, 01:02 PM
charliew   True on the rattle can paint. Just spray a metal p...   Jun 15 2010, 01:11 PM
scotty b   2 options for a proper job 1: strip, etch, seal, ...   Jun 15 2010, 07:09 PM
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