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| tradisrad |
Jun 22 2010, 11:03 AM
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I am going to install my 25 row Earls oil cooler over the 4th of july and I am looking for some more ideas, tip and tricks.
I plan on using a wafer adapter to keep my filter in the stock location. I will also install a thermostat and a fan. I will most likely mount it under the rear trunk. I'd like to see some pictures of what others have done. Experinces on the wafer adapter vs relocating the oil filter and what thermostats are being used. I've seen the Pelican Article. thanks -Rob |
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Jul 15 2010, 07:46 AM
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a little follow up:
Before I installed the oil cooler I was seeing engine temps climb into and past the 220 degree mark on my commute home. Yesterday afternoon I had my first commute with the oil cooler and my oil temps never climbed more than a needle width above 180 degrees. I am seeing a 40 degree difference! It seems that the oil takes a little longer to heat up to operating tempratures and my over all oil pressure is higher with the cooler oil temps. now I am wondering if my oil pressure is too high. My gauge is pegged at 80psi until I reach the 180 temps then I see 60+ psi on the freeway at 3400 rpm. Idle oil pressure is 20psi. I am thinking of playing with the relief springs to see if I can drop it a little. I've got the long relief valve and stiff spring at the first by pass and I don't remember what spring plunget I have at the rear bypass. I guess my question on this post is do I need to lower my oil pressure or am I ok? Also does one of the oil by-passes controll over all oil pressuse or do they work togeather? Am I worried about noting? thanks -Rob |
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Jul 15 2010, 03:47 PM
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a little follow up: Before I installed the oil cooler I was seeing engine temps climb into and past the 220 degree mark on my commute home. Yesterday afternoon I had my first commute with the oil cooler and my oil temps never climbed more than a needle width above 180 degrees. I am seeing a 40 degree difference! It seems that the oil takes a little longer to heat up to operating tempratures and my over all oil pressure is higher with the cooler oil temps. now I am wondering if my oil pressure is too high. My gauge is pegged at 80psi until I reach the 180 temps then I see 60+ psi on the freeway at 3400 rpm. Idle oil pressure is 20psi. I am thinking of playing with the relief springs to see if I can drop it a little. I've got the long relief valve and stiff spring at the first by pass and I don't remember what spring plunget I have at the rear bypass. I guess my question on this post is do I need to lower my oil pressure or am I ok? Also does one of the oil by-passes controll over all oil pressuse or do they work togeather? Am I worried about noting? thanks -Rob ..............I think you are not going to fine tune your oil system and get a much better result than you already have....The general rule of thumb is 10 psi of oil pressure for every 1000 RPM,s. Having 20 psi at idle with the engine hot is fine. The high side of 80 psi ...until temps reach 180 + is good also. keeps you from hammering on it until the engine is hot...a good thing.(at 3400 rpm) you have 60 psi.....your just a little high at this rpm but nothing to worry about at all....as your rpm,s reach 5000 I,m betting you do not have 100 psi., probably only 60-70. I think its far more important to have good idle oil pressure, as the engine sees a lot of time there., and you don't want it low., and if the TEMPERATURES get really hot (ambient air) the CRANKCASE expands and oil thins out dropping PSI....I think you are good to go as is. |
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I'll take some tomorrow.
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maf914
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Vacca Rabite Malte, I would.
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qa1142 So this?
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qa1142 With this kit...
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qa1142
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brant awesome
thanks Rob!
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qa1142 Very smart hose routing :first:
Any pictures ne... Sep 18 2010, 04:59 PM
qa1142 Very smart hose routing :first:
Any pictures ne... Sep 18 2010, 05:01 PM
tradisrad
Very smart hose routing :first:
Any pictures n... Sep 18 2010, 05:13 PM
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qa1142 $3.20 a foot
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Routing the ... Sep 18 2010, 09:07 PM
tradisrad
Brant, I PM'd you some pictures.
Routing the... Sep 19 2010, 11:10 AM
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McMark Great idea! Done! :thumbsup: Dec 14 2010, 10:22 PM![]() ![]() |
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