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Another DAPO., a real dumbass

TheCabinetmaker	Jul 19 2010, 07:25 AM Post #1
I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666	Nick73914 just bought a 73 1.7 litre a month ago, and brought the car by for me to look at. Its badged as a 2.4L. The po said he pulled out the 2.4 and reinstalled the 1.7. I checked and reset all the settings, but it still ran like crap. I thought it was running on three cylinders. Last week his alternator went out and he brought it over last friday so we could change it out. That's when I discovered someone had used a 3" long shoulder bolt to secure the belt tensioning nut. It needed a 1/2 " wrench. I turned it just a little, and the bolt snapped about a 1/2' from the bracket. Vise grips would not unscrew it. While it was on jackstands I decide to give it a good look underneath. What I found was shocking. This is a 73 1.7 with side shifter. Here's the mount bar, and the shift rod. The bottom rod is for comparison. The bar was shimmed down with two nuts and two washers on each side. There were no soft mounts. The shift rod was hitting the cutout they made in the bar. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545937.1.jpg) Then there was an external oil cooler that had been installed. The lines (which are common heater hose) was running in the wheel well, with the filter mounted directly over the tire. Yikes!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545940.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545941.3.jpg) Nick, I said, We need to pull the engine and fix this right. Engine came out at 4pm friday. We worked all day Saturday to make everything right again. We removed the cooler crap and put the filter back where it belongs. Switched the mount bar, and found a proper shift rod in my parts stash. Had to remove the front tin so I could grind off the strange bolt on the alternator. Got everything done, and I thought this is great time to check vale adjustment. Every valve was at zero lash. No wonder the car ran like crap. By the time we got done it was 4pm saturday, and the 100 degree heat had got to me. We called it a day. Took the day off Sunday as it was my 18th day in a row at work. Nick will be back this morning to help me reinstall the engine. This 19 yr old has learned a lot in one weekend, and I got a feeling he will be smiling big this afternoon. Thanks for listening. We'll report back later.

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snakemain	Jul 21 2010, 06:44 PM Post #2
Ronin Member Group: Members Posts: 577 Joined: 14-January 10 From: Aviano, Italy Member No.: 11,232 Region Association: None	I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

jcambo7	Jul 21 2010, 06:49 PM Post #3
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	QUOTE(snakemain @ Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM) I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I called them and they don't have pertronix. They would have to order it.

PeeGreen 914	Jul 21 2010, 07:09 PM Post #4
Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM) QUOTE(snakemain @ Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM) I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I called them and they don't have pertronix. They would have to order it. You could get one yourself. Just order it from them on line and install it if hat is the route you want to go. If you want to switch to points they could easily help.

jcambo7	Jul 21 2010, 07:14 PM Post #5
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Jul 21 2010, 08:09 PM) QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM) QUOTE(snakemain @ Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM) I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I called them and they don't have pertronix. They would have to order it. You could get one yourself. Just order it from them on line and install it if hat is the route you want to go. If you want to switch to points they could easily help. That was what I was thinking of doing Jon. I guess I just don't wont to have to deal with points and having to adjust them. It would be a good thing to learn and know though so I may end up getting one so I have it in case the pertronix fails again and I have a back up system.

PeeGreen 914	Jul 21 2010, 07:20 PM Post #6
Just when you think you're done...wait, there is more..lol Group: Members Posts: 10,219 Joined: 21-September 06 From: Seattle, WA... actually Everett Member No.: 6,884 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 06:14 PM) QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Jul 21 2010, 08:09 PM) QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM) QUOTE(snakemain @ Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM) I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I called them and they don't have pertronix. They would have to order it. You could get one yourself. Just order it from them on line and install it if hat is the route you want to go. If you want to switch to points they could easily help. That was what I was thinking of doing Jon. I guess I just don't wont to have to deal with points and having to adjust them. It would be a good thing to learn and know though so I may end up getting one so I have it in case the pertronix fails again and I have a back up system. That would be a good idea. They are only a few bucks and they are simply to install when you know how (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

jcambo7	Jul 21 2010, 07:22 PM Post #7
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,664 Joined: 24-December 08 From: Graham, WA Member No.: 9,867 Region Association: Pacific Northwest	QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Jul 21 2010, 08:20 PM) QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 06:14 PM) QUOTE(Phoenix 914-6GT @ Jul 21 2010, 08:09 PM) QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:49 PM) QUOTE(snakemain @ Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM) I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. Lot of ragged torn up VWs outside and didn't get to see inside (closed). Then I read a lot of bad reviews online. Planet9eleven is closer to me. I've talked to Cory, the owner, a couple times. They seem like they would be much more knowledgeable and have a couple 914s on their lot, but definitely not their specialty. Guarantee they could put a fancy aero kit on your 996 though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I called them and they don't have pertronix. They would have to order it. You could get one yourself. Just order it from them on line and install it if hat is the route you want to go. If you want to switch to points they could easily help. That was what I was thinking of doing Jon. I guess I just don't wont to have to deal with points and having to adjust them. It would be a good thing to learn and know though so I may end up getting one so I have it in case the pertronix fails again and I have a back up system. That would be a good idea. They are only a few bucks and they are simply to install when you know how (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) Thats what I will do then. I pretty sure that the forgeign junk yard near me that has the three 914s will have some old points I could get for cheap. I will get points and learn how to adjust them and stuff and put the pertronix in using the points as a backup system.

kerensky	Jul 21 2010, 09:32 PM Post #8
Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 531 Joined: 1-February 06 From: Norman, OK Member No.: 5,508 Region Association: Southwest Region	QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:22 PM) Thats what I will do then. I pretty sure that the forgeign junk yard near me that has the three 914s will have some old points I could get for cheap... Don't do that, man. They'd probably charge more for pulling used points from a wreck and selling them to you than Kerr Imports would charge for a new set. As for a guy to work on your car in OKC, I'd recommend Eddie's Imports, NE 30th and Western. His shop is a bit of a hole-in-the-wall, but he knows aircooled cars and he's reasonable. I take all my VWs to him, and I'll take the teener there when I need someone for it.

TheCabinetmaker	Jul 22 2010, 06:47 AM Post #9
I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,304 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666	QUOTE(kerensky @ Jul 21 2010, 10:32 PM) QUOTE(jcambo7 @ Jul 21 2010, 05:22 PM) Thats what I will do then. I pretty sure that the forgeign junk yard near me that has the three 914s will have some old points I could get for cheap... Don't do that, man. They'd probably charge more for pulling used points from a wreck and selling them to you than Kerr Imports would charge for a new set. As for a guy to work on your car in OKC, I'd recommend Eddie's Imports, NE 30th and Western. His shop is a bit of a hole-in-the-wall, but he knows aircooled cars and he's reasonable. I take all my VWs to him, and I'll take the teener there when I need someone for it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) New points and a condensor is cheap enough. Use only the bosch brand.

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vsg914 Another DAPO. Jul 19 2010, 07:25 AM

Lennies914 :beer2: Way to go. Jul 19 2010, 07:44 AM

RobW Pretty scary... Jul 19 2010, 07:47 AM

Tom Good on ya! Can't imagine someone doing... Jul 19 2010, 07:58 AM

Cupomeat Good on ya! Can't imagine someone doin... Jul 19 2010, 08:04 AM

type47 :trophy: Put it back the way it's 'suppose... Jul 19 2010, 08:07 AM

Tom_T I'll tell you what Curt, the NE-OK Green Count... Jul 19 2010, 01:21 PM

vsg914 Ok. Engine is back in and she purrs like a kitten.... Jul 19 2010, 03:25 PM

vsg914 BTW Tom, How you know bout green country? Jul 19 2010, 03:40 PM

SirAndy Here's the mount bar, and the shift rod. :wac... Jul 19 2010, 04:02 PM

nick73-914 What an awesome learning experience! Curt is T... Jul 19 2010, 04:27 PM

Phoenix 914-6GT What an awesome learning experience! Curt is ... Jul 19 2010, 04:58 PM

1968Cayman Ah, my old car . . . I remember it fondly . . . is... Jul 19 2010, 05:36 PM

Phoenix 914-6GT Hey Curt, any chance you want to help another fell... Jul 20 2010, 07:09 PM

kerensky Hey Curt, any chance you want to help another fel... Jul 20 2010, 11:29 PM

vsg914 Hey Curt, any chance you want to help another fe... Jul 21 2010, 06:11 AM

jcambo7 [quote name='kerensky' post='1345943' date='Jul 2... Jul 21 2010, 06:21 AM

914Sixer Yea! Nothing like helping out a new guy and l... Jul 21 2010, 06:17 AM

black73 Yea! Nothing like helping out a new guy and ... Jul 21 2010, 06:27 PM

vsg914 Ok, I confused. according to Dumonts website he... Jul 21 2010, 07:03 AM

Phoenix 914-6GT Thank you guys for helping :headbanger: I wish I ... Jul 21 2010, 11:12 AM

snakemain I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. L... Jul 21 2010, 06:44 PM

jcambo7 I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. ... Jul 21 2010, 06:49 PM

Phoenix 914-6GT I went by Dumont's one day to check it out. ... Jul 21 2010, 07:09 PM

jcambo7 [quote name='jcambo7' post='1346273' date='Jul 21... Jul 21 2010, 07:14 PM

Phoenix 914-6GT [quote name='jcambo7' post='1346273' date='Jul 2... Jul 21 2010, 07:20 PM

jcambo7 [quote name='jcambo7' post='1346288' date='Jul 21... Jul 21 2010, 07:22 PM

kerensky Thats what I will do then. I pretty sure that th... Jul 21 2010, 09:32 PM

vsg914 Thats what I will do then. I pretty sure that t... Jul 22 2010, 06:47 AM

ripper911 Don't forget to get the Vin's for the data... Jul 21 2010, 07:44 PM

jcambo7 Don't forget to get the Vin's for the dat... Jul 21 2010, 07:54 PM

realred914 Nick73914 just bought a 73 1.7 litre a month ago,... Jul 22 2010, 01:58 PM

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