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Another DAPO., a real dumbass |
TheCabinetmaker |
Jul 19 2010, 07:25 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,301 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Nick73914 just bought a 73 1.7 litre a month ago, and brought the car by for me to look at. Its badged as a 2.4L. The po said he pulled out the 2.4 and reinstalled the 1.7. I checked and reset all the settings, but it still ran like crap. I thought it was running on three cylinders. Last week his alternator went out and he brought it over last friday so we could change it out. That's when I discovered someone had used a 3" long shoulder bolt to secure the belt tensioning nut. It needed a 1/2 " wrench. I turned it just a little, and the bolt snapped about a 1/2' from the bracket. Vise grips would not unscrew it. While it was on jackstands I decide to give it a good look underneath. What I found was shocking. This is a 73 1.7 with side shifter. Here's the mount bar, and the shift rod. The bottom rod is for comparison. The bar was shimmed down with two nuts and two washers on each side. There were no soft mounts. The shift rod was hitting the cutout they made in the bar.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545937.1.jpg) Then there was an external oil cooler that had been installed. The lines (which are common heater hose) was running in the wheel well, with the filter mounted directly over the tire. Yikes!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545940.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545941.3.jpg) Nick, I said, We need to pull the engine and fix this right. Engine came out at 4pm friday. We worked all day Saturday to make everything right again. We removed the cooler crap and put the filter back where it belongs. Switched the mount bar, and found a proper shift rod in my parts stash. Had to remove the front tin so I could grind off the strange bolt on the alternator. Got everything done, and I thought this is great time to check vale adjustment. Every valve was at zero lash. No wonder the car ran like crap. By the time we got done it was 4pm saturday, and the 100 degree heat had got to me. We called it a day. Took the day off Sunday as it was my 18th day in a row at work. Nick will be back this morning to help me reinstall the engine. This 19 yr old has learned a lot in one weekend, and I got a feeling he will be smiling big this afternoon. Thanks for listening. We'll report back later. |
realred914 |
Jul 22 2010, 01:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
Nick73914 just bought a 73 1.7 litre a month ago, and brought the car by for me to look at. Its badged as a 2.4L. The po said he pulled out the 2.4 and reinstalled the 1.7. I checked and reset all the settings, but it still ran like crap. I thought it was running on three cylinders. Last week his alternator went out and he brought it over last friday so we could change it out. That's when I discovered someone had used a 3" long shoulder bolt to secure the belt tensioning nut. It needed a 1/2 " wrench. I turned it just a little, and the bolt snapped about a 1/2' from the bracket. Vise grips would not unscrew it. While it was on jackstands I decide to give it a good look underneath. What I found was shocking. This is a 73 1.7 with side shifter. Here's the mount bar, and the shift rod. The bottom rod is for comparison. The bar was shimmed down with two nuts and two washers on each side. There were no soft mounts. The shift rod was hitting the cutout they made in the bar. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545937.1.jpg) Then there was an external oil cooler that had been installed. The lines (which are common heater hose) was running in the wheel well, with the filter mounted directly over the tire. Yikes!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545940.2.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i290.photobucket.com-666-1279545941.3.jpg) Nick, I said, We need to pull the engine and fix this right. Engine came out at 4pm friday. We worked all day Saturday to make everything right again. We removed the cooler crap and put the filter back where it belongs. Switched the mount bar, and found a proper shift rod in my parts stash. Had to remove the front tin so I could grind off the strange bolt on the alternator. Got everything done, and I thought this is great time to check vale adjustment. Every valve was at zero lash. No wonder the car ran like crap. By the time we got done it was 4pm saturday, and the 100 degree heat had got to me. We called it a day. Took the day off Sunday as it was my 18th day in a row at work. Nick will be back this morning to help me reinstall the engine. This 19 yr old has learned a lot in one weekend, and I got a feeling he will be smiling big this afternoon. Thanks for listening. We'll report back later. nothing lacking in creativity of the prior owner. maybe got in a money bind and could only afford the new tranny, not the correct cross bar. fact is it was stillholding when you got it, right? at any rate if prior owner had not repaired it, no mater how mankly it is, there is a chance the car might had been scrapped as a non-runner. tossed out sold for scrap and crushed and shipped to red china as scrap to fuel their industry. things could be worse. the engine cross bar was a very very creative (admittilty wrong ) solution to a probelm, my hat off for that. note there is a problem with early design of rubber motor mounts, the ones that went outboard on the body, this resulted in the cross bar being hard mounted to the soft aluminum engine case, not good for hits! the later bar used on both tail and side whift trannies (hence three styles of four cylinder bars) is that teh rubber mount where moved to the engine, and the out bourd mounts were made solid. I bought a car that had the old soild enigne mounts, and several broken / stripped out studs on teh motor case to prove the bar had been wacked from below before!!! I converted to the later rubber engine mount bar. with a side shift the later style is the only option. good luck!!!!!!!!! |
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