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watsonrx13
post Mar 5 2010, 05:29 PM
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Eric's ad selling the 912 rear calipers started a discussion about the brake pressure regulator. I'd like to continue that discussion. Eric mentions that he wouldn't replace the regulator with a 'T' fitting. What I would like to know is how could you test the regulator off of the car? At $300 - $400 a piece from the dealer I would like to test mine before I purchase a new one.

Also, Eric mentioned that the front calipers shouldn't be used on the rear, even with the regulator. Is there any problem installing a set of rebuilt rears on and not installing the parking brake cables?

Any thoughts and suggestions are welcomed. BTW, I'd like to keep this discussion only for the 4-lug wheels.

Also, what are the thoughts about replacing the master cylinder with the larger one how does that effect the brake biasing?

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post Jul 26 2010, 08:21 PM
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So, I sent Renagade Hybrids an email concerning their instructions and the installation of a "T" in place of the brake regulator. My email reads:


Hello,

In your instructions for a 914/V8 setup (circa 1993), it states that the brake regulator should be replaced with a "T" fitting. Is this still valid? Have the instructions changed since 1993? Are new instructions available? The guys at 914World seem to think that the "T" fitting is a bad idea, even with the addition of a V8. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
Tony

Well, I was somewhat surprised by the response. Not really a clear cut explanation as to why you would install a "T" in a stock brake system with a V8 engine. The response was:


Hi Tony,
There are a lot of ways to go about doing the brakes. Most of the time they are upgraded to 911 calipers and rotors.. For instance I have a car running carrera calipers front and rear, with the T, and it works great both on the street and track. The calipers for the Renegade big brake kit were sized with the T in mind, so they also work very well.

You'll find the stock 914 brakes not well suited for the type of acceleration the V8 is capable of. A few years ago I purchased a 914 V8 that still had stock brakes and I was constantly aware I didn't have enough brake to stop the car if the car was driven with any authority.

If you are concerned, then you can always put in an adjustable proportioning valve between the seats. Then you can dial in the combination of front and rear calipers to your liking. Just be aware that it needs to be set properly and shouldn't be constantly messed with.

Let me know if you have any other questions.


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watsonrx13   Brake pressure regulator   Mar 5 2010, 05:29 PM
SirAndy   Stock brakes and a "T" is a bad idea tha...   Mar 5 2010, 05:36 PM
type47   ... and why would you want to mount rebuilt rear b...   Mar 5 2010, 05:41 PM
Tom_T   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here -...   Mar 5 2010, 05:51 PM
watsonrx13   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here ...   Mar 5 2010, 06:02 PM
Tom_T   :idea: .... hmmmm ..... well - just a guess here...   Mar 5 2010, 06:07 PM
watsonrx13   I'm not advocating replacing the pressure regu...   Mar 5 2010, 06:01 PM
McMark   The E in E-Brake stands for EMERGENCY. Emergencie...   Mar 5 2010, 07:10 PM
SirAndy   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy   Mar 5 2010, 07:28 PM
Tom_T   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy...   Mar 5 2010, 07:54 PM
ConeDodger   Actually, it's a PARKING brake ... :D Andy...   Mar 5 2010, 09:15 PM
kg6dxn   I could see replacing it with an adjustable one. ...   Mar 5 2010, 07:40 PM
Eric_Shea   I can't type all that crap again so I'll j...   Mar 5 2010, 07:44 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks Eric for the update. -- Rob   Mar 5 2010, 07:51 PM
Eric_Shea   Also... disconnecting hand brake cables would have...   Mar 5 2010, 07:54 PM
Eric_Shea   Read this...   Mar 5 2010, 07:58 PM
watsonrx13   Thanks Eric, very good description. BTW, is there...   Mar 5 2010, 08:08 PM
Tom_T   Great dissertation from the Guru of Porsche Brakes...   Mar 5 2010, 08:09 PM
campbellcj   Here is the original thread over in the classified...   Mar 5 2010, 10:48 PM
pbanders   Good stuff. FWIW, the "in car" test I wa...   Mar 5 2010, 11:00 PM
watsonrx13   So why does someone replace the pressure regulator...   Mar 6 2010, 07:23 AM
campbellcj   So why does someone replace the pressure regulato...   Mar 6 2010, 12:33 PM
McMark   If you're a racer looking for every last milli...   Mar 6 2010, 11:06 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: That's why I always try to stay with...   Mar 6 2010, 02:52 PM
Tom_T   Eric - others? I'm basically looking for a bi...   Mar 6 2010, 03:22 PM
Eric_Shea   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others ou...   Mar 6 2010, 06:20 PM
Tom_T   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others o...   Mar 6 2010, 07:07 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Tom, For your car (and about 90% of the others o...   Jul 23 2010, 11:13 AM
campbellcj   How does this all apply to the addition of V8 wei...   Jul 23 2010, 12:32 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   How does this all apply to the addition of V8 we...   Jul 23 2010, 12:50 PM
Tom_T   [quote name='Eric_Shea' post='1283326' date='Mar ...   Jul 23 2010, 12:43 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   Because they simply may not understand what it rea...   Jul 23 2010, 05:13 PM
wobbletop   For a V8 I would start with the regulator in place...   Jul 23 2010, 08:23 PM
Eric_Shea   If I were Scott or Steve I'd remove that imm...   Jul 25 2010, 08:37 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   So, I sent Renagade Hybrids an email concerning th...   Jul 26 2010, 08:21 PM


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