911 for 914 Brakes Question Options

[patssle]

I can't find an answer to this...is it at all possible to put 911 brakes onto the 914 while maintaining the 4 lugs? Or must everything be swapped out?

I like my Mahles and would prefer not to have to replace them.

And while we're on it, another brakes question. I read a couple posts where people just changed out the front brakes and left the rear original - to keep the e-brake. Any opinions on having 2 different brakes front and rear?

[Eric_Shea]

But you would also suggest sticking with the 914 brakes (once properly set) as they provide more than enough stopping power even with a 3.0L?

That really depends on the driving style. Jon is right (above re: heat), if you're installing a 3.0 I doubt you're doing it to putter around town. If you get overly agressive with it, you may experience fade issues. You will be asking your 914 to stop from faster speeds in shorter periods of time. E.G.: Your speed at 100 yards with a 3.0 will potentially be a great deal faster than with a 1.7, you will get to the brake threshold sooner yet you'll still want to slow to the speed that your tires are capable of handling the upcoming corner at. Be it autocross or twisties, your engine choice can determine what the best brake set-up is. With multipe stops from higher speeds in shorter time spans, the solid rotors can have an issue with heat dissipation and that can lead to fade.

***BRAKE FADE IS EXTREMELY RARE IN A 914 WITH STOCK BRAKES*** Overly agressive driving or a heavy "Middle" pedal may cuase the symptoms. There are professional 914 drivers here who will tell you, if you're getting fade in a 914, you're on the brakes too much.

I'd rationalize it all and say. If you're just driving around town, you'll probably be fine. If you're going to autocross it or hit the mountain grades hard, I'd go with the set-up I mentioned.

What are "Club Hubs" Who makes them?

That is a term I used for the hubs that Brad was selling on 914club when it was alive. I believe Mike Mueller engineered them at the urging of Brad. Another machinest (Mark... nice guy) took on the task and was selling them recently. Cone Dodger and a few others have them on their cars and will probably weigh in. They allow you to use 911 M-Calipers (or Brembo Calipers) on a 914 Strut with a 911 vented rotor.

I think they're an interesting idea for those who want to keep their 4-lug wheels. The few problems I've seen with them are:

1. Price - A set cost as much as a 911 front end... loaded.
2. With the price issue, it seemed odd to have a hub still using the smaller 914 spindle but... that's what it was designed to do... no other way around it. That's really picking nits because I don't recall seeing any 914 spindle failures (and I have seen some saggy 911 spindles over the years).
3. I stated it earlier, I think the M-Caliper mounted on a 914 ear may come a bit too close to the edge of a 911 vented rotor for my comfort on this set up. That can be resolved (if it's really an issue) by milling the edge of the rotor a tad.