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| malaga_red75 |
Aug 6 2010, 05:52 PM
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'74 2.5L N/A Subie ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 5-March 06 From: Menlo Park, CA Member No.: 5,674 Region Association: None |
subaru JDM EJ25 DOHC
So, got my conversion finally road worthy and have noticed that while I am driving around, the car stays at around 200 F. when i stop, or let it idle in my garage... the temp slowly climbs and doesnt stop (i shut it off around 230 F). I am assuming this is an issue with my fans. I am running a front mounted radiator, using 2 push-style fans. A few things that i think may be wrong... -There is no shroud around the fans... just the shroud that seals the radiator to the front (since they are push fans, they are mounted on the front side of the radiator, in between the radiator and the nose of the car) - there is about a 1 1/2" gap between the fans and the radiator (this was just the way that ended up working for mounting the fans) anyways, i am pretty sure that the cooling system is working (no kinked lines, thermostat working, fans do turn on) as indicated by driving and the temp staying cool, there is just something not working when i stop moving. let me know what you guys think. -Peter |
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| malaga_red75 |
Aug 10 2010, 10:37 PM
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'74 2.5L N/A Subie ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 5-March 06 From: Menlo Park, CA Member No.: 5,674 Region Association: None |
So, I re-did the cooling system, bringing the fans to the other side and pulling the air. While I was doing this I also pulled the engine/tranny and fixed my tranny leak (a input shaft seal leak). I just finished putting the engine back in and connecting all the lines.
So, tomorrow I will be filling the system back up with coolant (and water wetter, thanks barberdave). Can anyone give me a little more detail of how to get all the air out of the system. -what did you use as a vacuum? -where did you pull the air out? I am using a pressurized burp tank system, i.e. there is no cap on the radiator. the pressurized cap is on the burp tank. The burp tank has an air bleed nipple, as well as the radiator. there is also a nipple on the crossover pipe, which I think might be the highest point in the system. Thanks!!! sorry for the crappy cell phone pic, couldn't find my camera. peter Attached thumbnail(s) |
| Mike Bellis |
Aug 10 2010, 11:00 PM
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So, I re-did the cooling system, bringing the fans to the other side and pulling the air. While I was doing this I also pulled the engine/tranny and fixed my tranny leak (a input shaft seal leak). I just finished putting the engine back in and connecting all the lines. So, tomorrow I will be filling the system back up with coolant (and water wetter, thanks barberdave). Can anyone give me a little more detail of how to get all the air out of the system. -what did you use as a vacuum? -where did you pull the air out? I am using a pressurized burp tank system, i.e. there is no cap on the radiator. the pressurized cap is on the burp tank. The burp tank has an air bleed nipple, as well as the radiator. there is also a nipple on the crossover pipe, which I think might be the highest point in the system. Thanks!!! sorry for the crappy cell phone pic, couldn't find my camera. peter Looking at your picture, You may also want to consider making your fender outlet holes bigger. Your outlet surface area should be much larger than the inlet. This will help create a nagative pressure zone in the fender well. This will draw more air through the radiator. |
| malaga_red75 |
Aug 10 2010, 11:39 PM
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'74 2.5L N/A Subie ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 454 Joined: 5-March 06 From: Menlo Park, CA Member No.: 5,674 Region Association: None |
Looking at your picture, You may also want to consider making your fender outlet holes bigger. Your outlet surface area should be much larger than the inlet. This will help create a nagative pressure zone in the fender well. This will draw more air through the radiator. ok, i will get to this tomorrow. Is there any ratio of the surface area of the radiator to the size of the outlet holes? I will also add mesh material to not get rocks kicked up in there. peter |
malaga_red75 cooling issues... Aug 6 2010, 05:52 PM
BarberDave :trophy:
1st. Are you useing the same size rad... Aug 6 2010, 06:43 PM
kg6dxn First, you should pull the air not push. Second, i... Aug 6 2010, 07:03 PM
ArtechnikA
First, you should pull the air not push.
Referen... Aug 6 2010, 08:07 PM
kg6dxn
First, you should pull the air not push.
Refere... Aug 6 2010, 11:05 PM
ArtechnikA
Reference, please - 'cause everybody else in... Aug 7 2010, 06:18 AM
malaga_red75 Dave,
I do have a shroud that feeds all the air... Aug 6 2010, 08:00 PM
kg6dxn Fluid dynamics is different. Pushing or pulling fl... Aug 7 2010, 07:10 AM
ArtechnikA published reference... Aug 7 2010, 07:17 AM
DBCooper
published reference...
That's hard to do be... Aug 7 2010, 08:58 AM
kg6dxn
published reference...
I'm not sure what yo... Aug 10 2010, 10:57 PM
RobW Impressive technical knowledge... I want to drink ... Aug 7 2010, 07:20 AM
kg6dxn
Impressive technical knowledge... I want to drink... Aug 7 2010, 07:56 AM
kg6dxn
Looking at your picture, You may also want to ... Aug 11 2010, 07:45 AM
kg6dxn I use a vacuum pump from harbor freight $70 a... Aug 10 2010, 10:53 PM
malaga_red75 ok, i will make my holes bigger then take some mea... Aug 11 2010, 12:28 PM
malaga_red75 So, yesterday I tried getting all the air out of t... Aug 12 2010, 10:12 AM
kg6dxn
So, yesterday I tried getting all the air out of ... Aug 12 2010, 11:36 AM
Phoenix-MN
So, yesterday I tried getting all the air out of... Aug 12 2010, 12:26 PM
malaga_red75
[quote name='kg6dxn' post='1355505' date='Aug 12 ... Aug 12 2010, 01:35 PM
malaga_red75 and mine will and does begin to overheat at idle i... Aug 12 2010, 01:36 PM
charliew You must not be moving enough coolant if you need ... Aug 12 2010, 05:20 PM
malaga_red75
You must not be moving enough coolant if you need... Aug 13 2010, 12:27 PM
ArtechnikA
Will a bad headgasket cause it to overheat at idl... Aug 13 2010, 03:15 PM
realred914 You could try the the Bong method to get the air ... Aug 13 2010, 11:22 PM
budman5201 I had the exact same problem in 2 of my sub conver... Aug 14 2010, 11:19 AM
malaga_red75
I had the exact same problem in 2 of my sub conve... Aug 14 2010, 12:02 PM
malaga_red75 well, new thermostat installed. no change... well... Aug 14 2010, 03:25 PM
kg6dxn
well, new thermostat installed. no change... wel... Aug 14 2010, 04:08 PM
budman5201 one question, how many return lines do you have th... Aug 14 2010, 04:56 PM
budman5201 the basic design of the water pump housing on a su... Aug 14 2010, 05:06 PM
malaga_red75 budman-
First, when i did the tstat test, the new... Aug 14 2010, 08:35 PM
budman5201
budman-
First, when i did the tstat test, the ne... Aug 15 2010, 12:56 PM
malaga_red75
budman-
First, when i did the tstat test, the n... Aug 15 2010, 03:42 PM
drive-ability IMO a blown head gasket would be much worse under ... Aug 14 2010, 09:44 PM
malaga_red75
IMO a blown head gasket would be much worse under... Aug 14 2010, 09:49 PM
budman5201 here is a stolen pic from STI progress thread. sho... Aug 15 2010, 01:31 PM
malaga_red75 well, I think (fingers crossed) that the cooling s... Aug 16 2010, 07:37 PM
kg6dxn Awesome! :Qarl: Now put that thing back togeth... Aug 16 2010, 07:45 PM
budman5201 SWEET! cool, anxious to see now where your tem... Aug 17 2010, 05:59 PM
malaga_red75 so, as the ultimate test for my cooling system, I ... Aug 19 2010, 11:41 AM
kg6dxn
so, as the ultimate test for my cooling system, I... Aug 19 2010, 11:45 AM
budman5201 SWEET! :headbanger: :driving: :DRUNK: Aug 19 2010, 06:18 PM
charliew I guess you also don't have the oil filter coo... Aug 20 2010, 11:30 AM
ArtechnikA
I guess you also don't have the oil filter co... Aug 20 2010, 12:22 PM![]() ![]() |
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