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Montreal914
post Aug 11 2010, 09:03 PM
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Attached ImageHello everyone, after being on the 914 club for almost a year, I finally decided to join the 914 world. I don't know what the story is but there has to be something in common here, other than the main topic of course... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Now to the main subject. I was driving on the highway at about 70-75mph for about a half hour yesterday and this is what my temperature gauge was showing. The outside temperature was about 80-85 SoCal.
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As a matter of fact, the guage takes the longest time to get up. So, I guess there is only two things that can be wrong, the guage or the sensor in the taco plate. Is there a simple way to verify them? Is there some measurement that I can do with a standard voltmeter?

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that is an oil temp gauge, not a head temp gauge. Therefore, it will take a longish time to get up, as you have to wait for 4 quarts of oil to warm up.

Oil temps and head temps can be (but are not always) unrelated.

Oil temps go up with engine revs. So, if you are doing a lot of driving in 5th at 70 you are only barely turning 3K rpm. This will keep your oil cool. Doing the same 1/2 hour run in 4th will raise your revs about 1000rpm and you will see your oil temps rise too.

As an example, before I put my secondary oil cooler in...
my way to work in the morning is 45 miles, mostly freeway, and almost all of it is downhill. The trip takes about 45 minutes, and at the end of it my oil temps may only barely be 190 degrees. The trip is in 5 gear, and even though the car is moving quick, the engine is spinning slow.

on my way home, the same 45 mile drive is still freeway, but almost all uphill. I have to keep the car in 4th to keep head temps down, and this revs the engine to about 4K+ for the entire drive home. Even with the oil cooler, my OTs are pushing near 220 - though my head temps are very happy around 365 - even after 30 minutes of constant climbing at 70+ mph.

I'd say you are probably fine.

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post Aug 12 2010, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Aug 12 2010, 07:34 AM) *

that is an oil temp gauge, not a head temp gauge. Therefore, it will take a longish time to get up, as you have to wait for 4 quarts of oil to warm up.

Oil temps and head temps can be (but are not always) unrelated.

Oil temps go up with engine revs. So, if you are doing a lot of driving in 5th at 70 you are only barely turning 3K rpm. This will keep your oil cool. Doing the same 1/2 hour run in 4th will raise your revs about 1000rpm and you will see your oil temps rise too.

As an example, before I put my secondary oil cooler in...
my way to work in the morning is 45 miles, mostly freeway, and almost all of it is downhill. The trip takes about 45 minutes, and at the end of it my oil temps may only barely be 190 degrees. The trip is in 5 gear, and even though the car is moving quick, the engine is spinning slow.

on my way home, the same 45 mile drive is still freeway, but almost all uphill. I have to keep the car in 4th to keep head temps down, and this revs the engine to about 4K+ for the entire drive home. Even with the oil cooler, my OTs are pushing near 220 - though my head temps are very happy around 365 - even after 30 minutes of constant climbing at 70+ mph.

I'd say you are probably fine.

Zach


Thank you for this information, what kind of head temperature gauge do you have. 20 years ago, I had a vw beetle with a 1776cc dual dellortos and had installed the VDO one with the ring that goes under the spark plug. Do you feel this gauge is a must? Do 2.0 heads typically run hot?
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Montreal914   Temperature guage   Aug 11 2010, 09:03 PM
underthetire   Well, yes, you can do an ohm reading on the sensor...   Aug 11 2010, 09:12 PM
Montreal914   Well, yes, you can do an ohm reading on the senso...   Aug 11 2010, 09:25 PM
avidfanjpl   I live in Anaheim Hills and that temp reading is s...   Aug 12 2010, 01:09 AM
Montreal914   I live in Anaheim Hills and that temp reading is ...   Aug 12 2010, 10:20 PM
Tom_T   Also remember that the temp travel is shorter on t...   Aug 12 2010, 01:38 AM
Vacca Rabite   that is an oil temp gauge, not a head temp gauge. ...   Aug 12 2010, 08:34 AM
Montreal914   that is an oil temp gauge, not a head temp gauge....   Aug 12 2010, 10:26 PM
Vacca Rabite   I changed out all of the console gauges to 2 1/16...   Aug 13 2010, 07:41 AM
realred914   [quote name='Vacca Rabite' date='Aug 1...   Aug 13 2010, 10:24 AM
Vacca Rabite   just wonder how you buy a calibrated gage and sen...   Aug 13 2010, 10:41 AM
jeffdon   [quote name='Vacca Rabite' date='Aug ...   Aug 13 2010, 10:44 AM
realred914   [quote name='Vacca Rabite' date='Aug...   Aug 13 2010, 11:04 AM
Root_Werks   Also, if your cable is broken to the cooling flaps...   Aug 12 2010, 11:05 AM
Montreal914   Also, if your cable is broken to the cooling flap...   Aug 12 2010, 10:29 PM
Vysoc   On the later type Oil Temp Guages with the shorter...   Aug 12 2010, 01:23 PM
type2man   On the later type Oil Temp Guages with the shorte...   Aug 12 2010, 03:33 PM
mipstien   i have a short red gauge and mine stays up high bu...   Aug 12 2010, 03:54 PM
Vysoc   Thanks for the information especially from the my ...   Aug 12 2010, 07:45 PM
rjames   That's why I'm told on the later models ...   Aug 12 2010, 10:43 PM
realred914   That's why I'm told on the later models...   Aug 13 2010, 12:17 AM
Montreal914   That's why I'm told on the later model...   Aug 13 2010, 08:51 AM


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