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tornik550
post Aug 11 2010, 07:29 PM
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I am in the process of tuning my car after a rebuild. I have dual weber 40's. My engine is a 2.27L. Everything is going pretty well. I am slowly getting the jetting closer and closer. I was driving around at about 60mph yesterday. The head were hotter than I like (325 degrees). I checked the spark plugs and they were bone white. The main jets were at 160. I increased them to 170 (above 160 I only have increments of 10). With the increase to 170, the car is running very well and the temp at around 60mph cruising is around 275. I sped home, tuned off the car and took out the plugs- bone white. I was quite surprised.

The main jet size sounds high too me. Does it sound high to everyone else? Is it possible that I am needing a high main jet size because of the float level? I have my floats set at 10.5 with the gasket.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
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post Aug 13 2010, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Aug 13 2010, 01:52 PM) *

Increasing the float height will not change the mixture unless you mess up and allow the bowl to overfill. The float work JUST like the one in your toilet tank.

When setting the float closed height (10mm or 11mm) make sure you don't compress the ball spring on the needle valve. You want the needle valve seated/closed, but not compressing the ball. If you do this wrong, your bowl will be too empty.

Fuel pressure will also not affect mixture, unless you set it too high and it blows the needle valve off it's seat. But there will be NO general mixture change between 2psi and 3psi.

Be careful. There is a LOT of misinformation about carbs out there.



You aren't kidding about misinformation.

As you increase or decrease float height you change the height of the fuel column inside the main fuel wells. The emulsion tube sits in that column of fuel. Air is sucked in through the AC jet and pulled through the center of the ET. This emulsifies the mixure which then enters the carb through the center of the venturi. The higher the column the richer the emulsified mixture.

As far as fuel pressure, the float has to fight the needle against fuel pressure to close it. The higher the pressure the harder it has to fight. With higher pressure what you actually end up with is a float that sinks a bit before it can shut of the flow. That gives you a higher float level. See above why that affects your mixture.
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tornik550   Weber IDF Main jet help   Aug 11 2010, 07:29 PM
Jake Raby   What size venturis? 40s are quite small for a 2270   Aug 11 2010, 08:18 PM
type2man   What size venturis? 40s are quite small for a 227...   Aug 11 2010, 08:39 PM
tomeric914   The main jets were at 160. Just for clarity, are...   Aug 11 2010, 08:53 PM
tomeric914   BTW, I have 40's on my 2270 but changed out to...   Aug 11 2010, 08:57 PM
tornik550   My idf's have 32 vents. I am definitely chang...   Aug 11 2010, 09:24 PM
ME733   My idf's have 32 vents. I am definitely chan...   Aug 12 2010, 09:10 AM
john rogers   The venturi's sound a bit too small as you sur...   Aug 11 2010, 10:27 PM
jmill   The larger vents would send a weaker signal to the...   Aug 11 2010, 10:57 PM
jmill   Another thing you might want to look at is your ET...   Aug 12 2010, 07:51 AM
tornik550   Right now I have AC jets at 220. The reason for t...   Aug 12 2010, 09:21 AM
ME733   Right now I have AC jets at 220. The reason for ...   Aug 12 2010, 10:51 AM
john rogers   The rule of thumb I learned when racing which shou...   Aug 12 2010, 11:08 AM
jmill   The AIR correction jet has a very significant cha...   Aug 12 2010, 11:10 AM
tornik550   Here is an update. I drove my car to work today. ...   Aug 12 2010, 08:25 PM
ME733   Here is an update. I drove my car to work today....   Aug 13 2010, 08:16 AM
john rogers   You will need to become the master of the trade of...   Aug 12 2010, 09:54 PM
tornik550   I think that I need clarification of the stock flo...   Aug 13 2010, 08:32 AM
ME733   .........put the float level back where it was.......   Aug 13 2010, 08:43 AM
jmill   Murray is correct in that changing multiple things...   Aug 13 2010, 09:26 AM
tornik550   Murray is correct in that changing multiple thing...   Aug 13 2010, 09:32 AM
McMark   Increasing the float height will not change the mi...   Aug 13 2010, 12:52 PM
jmill   Increasing the float height will not change the m...   Aug 13 2010, 02:01 PM
McMark   The rate at which fuel is admitted to the emulsion...   Aug 13 2010, 02:19 PM
jmill   You can't seriously be arguing that the level...   Aug 13 2010, 04:08 PM
McMark   I guess I read that paragraph a completely differe...   Aug 13 2010, 05:34 PM
john rogers   From several of the posts here I seem to read that...   Aug 13 2010, 06:22 PM
tornik550   I am new to carbs. I am a human mechanic and not ...   Aug 13 2010, 06:30 PM
ME733   I am new to carbs. I am a human mechanic and not...   Aug 14 2010, 04:48 PM
jeffdon   This is some of the most insightful carb tuning ta...   Aug 14 2010, 09:02 PM
tornik550   So what is the cheapest way to get a o2 sensor, a/...   Aug 13 2010, 06:35 PM
McMark   PLX is $269, here. Innovate Motorsports is ...   Aug 13 2010, 07:14 PM
john rogers   I would suggest that for optimizing a carb setup t...   Aug 15 2010, 11:14 AM
ME733   I would suggest that for optimizing a carb setup ...   Aug 16 2010, 07:43 AM
jmill   If your car were perfect at idle and perfect at ...   Aug 16 2010, 08:19 AM


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