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tornik550
post Aug 11 2010, 07:29 PM
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I am in the process of tuning my car after a rebuild. I have dual weber 40's. My engine is a 2.27L. Everything is going pretty well. I am slowly getting the jetting closer and closer. I was driving around at about 60mph yesterday. The head were hotter than I like (325 degrees). I checked the spark plugs and they were bone white. The main jets were at 160. I increased them to 170 (above 160 I only have increments of 10). With the increase to 170, the car is running very well and the temp at around 60mph cruising is around 275. I sped home, tuned off the car and took out the plugs- bone white. I was quite surprised.

The main jet size sounds high too me. Does it sound high to everyone else? Is it possible that I am needing a high main jet size because of the float level? I have my floats set at 10.5 with the gasket.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated
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post Aug 15 2010, 11:14 AM
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I would suggest that for optimizing a carb setup to do it the following way. I learned this the hard (very hard) way when I tried messing with the race car when I went from a 2.2L four to a 2.8L four and then into a 2.2L six.
1. Start at the front, I.E. make sure the tank is clean and rust and junk free.
2. Install a fuel filter at pump suction.
3. Make sure you have the correct fuel pump, those little Facet "cube" shakers are bad for the float settings due to pulses.
4. Make sure fuel lines are large enough, 1/2 inch are great.
5. In the engine compt. do not let the fuel lines touch anything that generates heat and even covering them with fire sleeve is a good idea.
6. Add a pressure gauge just before the carbs so you will know what pressure is acting on the needle and seats.
7. Try to either add an O2 sensor/meter in your exhaust or borrow a meter so the car can be tuned to correct mixture.
8. Make sure to use the insulating spacers under the intake runners to keep heat away from the carbs.
9. Set float heights to the middle to start with and adjust as necessary if needed. Make sure to have the Weber repair books handy and refer to then often.
10. If the jet sizes seem a bit too far out of what normal should be, look for something wrong with the engine setup such as wrong venturi size, weak spark, etc.
11. When starting out, make sure ALL other items are in like new shape such as plugs, points (if used), valve adjustment, etc is not going to have a negative and masking effect on the carb tuning.
12. Do not ever try to sync the carbs by ear, use one of the professional synchrometers and make sure they are sync'd when starting.
13. Run the car ofter, especially in CA where the gas is crap and will let lots of junk settle into the bottom of the carbs.

Hope this helps some.
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tornik550   Weber IDF Main jet help   Aug 11 2010, 07:29 PM
Jake Raby   What size venturis? 40s are quite small for a 2270   Aug 11 2010, 08:18 PM
type2man   What size venturis? 40s are quite small for a 227...   Aug 11 2010, 08:39 PM
tomeric914   The main jets were at 160. Just for clarity, are...   Aug 11 2010, 08:53 PM
tomeric914   BTW, I have 40's on my 2270 but changed out to...   Aug 11 2010, 08:57 PM
tornik550   My idf's have 32 vents. I am definitely chang...   Aug 11 2010, 09:24 PM
ME733   My idf's have 32 vents. I am definitely chan...   Aug 12 2010, 09:10 AM
john rogers   The venturi's sound a bit too small as you sur...   Aug 11 2010, 10:27 PM
jmill   The larger vents would send a weaker signal to the...   Aug 11 2010, 10:57 PM
jmill   Another thing you might want to look at is your ET...   Aug 12 2010, 07:51 AM
tornik550   Right now I have AC jets at 220. The reason for t...   Aug 12 2010, 09:21 AM
ME733   Right now I have AC jets at 220. The reason for ...   Aug 12 2010, 10:51 AM
john rogers   The rule of thumb I learned when racing which shou...   Aug 12 2010, 11:08 AM
jmill   The AIR correction jet has a very significant cha...   Aug 12 2010, 11:10 AM
tornik550   Here is an update. I drove my car to work today. ...   Aug 12 2010, 08:25 PM
ME733   Here is an update. I drove my car to work today....   Aug 13 2010, 08:16 AM
john rogers   You will need to become the master of the trade of...   Aug 12 2010, 09:54 PM
tornik550   I think that I need clarification of the stock flo...   Aug 13 2010, 08:32 AM
ME733   .........put the float level back where it was.......   Aug 13 2010, 08:43 AM
jmill   Murray is correct in that changing multiple things...   Aug 13 2010, 09:26 AM
tornik550   Murray is correct in that changing multiple thing...   Aug 13 2010, 09:32 AM
McMark   Increasing the float height will not change the mi...   Aug 13 2010, 12:52 PM
jmill   Increasing the float height will not change the m...   Aug 13 2010, 02:01 PM
McMark   The rate at which fuel is admitted to the emulsion...   Aug 13 2010, 02:19 PM
jmill   You can't seriously be arguing that the level...   Aug 13 2010, 04:08 PM
McMark   I guess I read that paragraph a completely differe...   Aug 13 2010, 05:34 PM
john rogers   From several of the posts here I seem to read that...   Aug 13 2010, 06:22 PM
tornik550   I am new to carbs. I am a human mechanic and not ...   Aug 13 2010, 06:30 PM
ME733   I am new to carbs. I am a human mechanic and not...   Aug 14 2010, 04:48 PM
jeffdon   This is some of the most insightful carb tuning ta...   Aug 14 2010, 09:02 PM
tornik550   So what is the cheapest way to get a o2 sensor, a/...   Aug 13 2010, 06:35 PM
McMark   PLX is $269, here. Innovate Motorsports is ...   Aug 13 2010, 07:14 PM
john rogers   I would suggest that for optimizing a carb setup t...   Aug 15 2010, 11:14 AM
ME733   I would suggest that for optimizing a carb setup ...   Aug 16 2010, 07:43 AM
jmill   If your car were perfect at idle and perfect at ...   Aug 16 2010, 08:19 AM


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