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What Spring rate?, My 100# springs are on backorder... |
bmtrnavsky |
Aug 30 2010, 08:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I ordered some 100# rear springs for my 73 2.0 and just found out they were on back order. My stock springs are toast... Everyone always says WOW! you set that up really squatty in the rear, and I'm like ya the springs are toast... so I was planning on putting in some 100# springs with Boge shocks. The fronts are done now and it is a BIG improvement already, but I have been waiting on my rear springs to do my rear shocks all at once. I don't really want to wait until October to finish this job, so my choices seem to be a stock spring... I don't really want this, a 90# at factory ride height, 140# lowered 1.5 inches, or the stock 65# spring. At this point I realize ANYTHING is better than what I have... but I am leaning towards the 140# springs.
I commute in the car on nice days but the car is mostly driven for fun, and I REALLY want to start taking it to the track for AX. I thought the 100# was a nice balance in performance and ride... is the 140 pound going to ride too harsh on the road? I guess it's subjective, but I don't want to ruin it's manners on the road where it spends 90% of it's time. But I also want the car to handle really well and I get that I will have to make some compromise. Thoughts? |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Aug 31 2010, 08:03 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,896 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
140 will lower the car and make the tail happy, meaning oversteer. Depending on how old you are, the 140 may be too harsh depending on your age.
I ordered some 100# rear springs for my 73 2.0 and just found out they were on back order. My stock springs are toast... Everyone always says WOW! you set that up really squatty in the rear, and I'm like ya the springs are toast... so I was planning on putting in some 100# springs with Boge shocks. The fronts are done now and it is a BIG improvement already, but I have been waiting on my rear springs to do my rear shocks all at once. I don't really want to wait until October to finish this job, so my choices seem to be a stock spring... I don't really want this, a 90# at factory ride height, 140# lowered 1.5 inches, or the stock 65# spring. At this point I realize ANYTHING is better than what I have... but I am leaning towards the 140# springs. I commute in the car on nice days but the car is mostly driven for fun, and I REALLY want to start taking it to the track for AX. I thought the 100# was a nice balance in performance and ride... is the 140 pound going to ride too harsh on the road? I guess it's subjective, but I don't want to ruin it's manners on the road where it spends 90% of it's time. But I also want the car to handle really well and I get that I will have to make some compromise. Thoughts? |
bmtrnavsky |
Aug 31 2010, 10:06 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
140 will lower the car and make the tail happy, meaning oversteer. Depending on how old you are, the 140 may be too harsh depending on your age. I ordered some 100# rear springs for my 73 2.0 and just found out they were on back order. My stock springs are toast... Everyone always says WOW! you set that up really squatty in the rear, and I'm like ya the springs are toast... so I was planning on putting in some 100# springs with Boge shocks. The fronts are done now and it is a BIG improvement already, but I have been waiting on my rear springs to do my rear shocks all at once. I don't really want to wait until October to finish this job, so my choices seem to be a stock spring... I don't really want this, a 90# at factory ride height, 140# lowered 1.5 inches, or the stock 65# spring. At this point I realize ANYTHING is better than what I have... but I am leaning towards the 140# springs. I commute in the car on nice days but the car is mostly driven for fun, and I REALLY want to start taking it to the track for AX. I thought the 100# was a nice balance in performance and ride... is the 140 pound going to ride too harsh on the road? I guess it's subjective, but I don't want to ruin it's manners on the road where it spends 90% of it's time. But I also want the car to handle really well and I get that I will have to make some compromise. Thoughts? After talking to George I think I am going to send back the Boge shocks and get a set of Bilstein HD and 90 pound springs and lower the rear with the spring perches. Then I am going to drive the wheels off of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) My current springs are so soft right now a 60 series tire is buried in the rear wheel well so it can only improve. The car is on the street 98% of the time and I think this will handle much better than what I have now and serve as a good base for future upgrades. Final thoughts anyone? |
Nürburg Nomad |
Aug 31 2010, 01:56 PM
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914Rubber.com! Group: Members Posts: 296 Joined: 30-March 10 From: Buckeye State Member No.: 11,536 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
140 will lower the car and make the tail happy, meaning oversteer. Depending on how old you are, the 140 may be too harsh depending on your age. I ordered some 100# rear springs for my 73 2.0 and just found out they were on back order. My stock springs are toast... Everyone always says WOW! you set that up really squatty in the rear, and I'm like ya the springs are toast... so I was planning on putting in some 100# springs with Boge shocks. The fronts are done now and it is a BIG improvement already, but I have been waiting on my rear springs to do my rear shocks all at once. I don't really want to wait until October to finish this job, so my choices seem to be a stock spring... I don't really want this, a 90# at factory ride height, 140# lowered 1.5 inches, or the stock 65# spring. At this point I realize ANYTHING is better than what I have... but I am leaning towards the 140# springs. I commute in the car on nice days but the car is mostly driven for fun, and I REALLY want to start taking it to the track for AX. I thought the 100# was a nice balance in performance and ride... is the 140 pound going to ride too harsh on the road? I guess it's subjective, but I don't want to ruin it's manners on the road where it spends 90% of it's time. But I also want the car to handle really well and I get that I will have to make some compromise. Thoughts? After talking to George I think I am going to send back the Boge shocks and get a set of Bilstein HD and 90 pound springs and lower the rear with the spring perches. Then I am going to drive the wheels off of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) My current springs are so soft right now a 60 series tire is buried in the rear wheel well so it can only improve. The car is on the street 98% of the time and I think this will handle much better than what I have now and serve as a good base for future upgrades. Final thoughts anyone? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Well a smart motorsport enthusiast always chooses Bilstein so you can't go wrong there! Unfortunately my 914 currently has KYBs installed by the previous owner. (FYI KYB = "Kill Yer Butt" for those who don't already know!) but adjustable Bilsteins with 140lb springs are in my 914s future for certain! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) There's a reason soo many race cars run them and are standard equipment on more performance-luxury cars than any other shock manufacturer; superb handling and stiffness while retaining excellent ride quality that won't break your spine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
bmtrnavsky |
Aug 31 2010, 06:09 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 20-October 07 From: Longview, TX Member No.: 8,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
140 will lower the car and make the tail happy, meaning oversteer. Depending on how old you are, the 140 may be too harsh depending on your age. I ordered some 100# rear springs for my 73 2.0 and just found out they were on back order. My stock springs are toast... Everyone always says WOW! you set that up really squatty in the rear, and I'm like ya the springs are toast... so I was planning on putting in some 100# springs with Boge shocks. The fronts are done now and it is a BIG improvement already, but I have been waiting on my rear springs to do my rear shocks all at once. I don't really want to wait until October to finish this job, so my choices seem to be a stock spring... I don't really want this, a 90# at factory ride height, 140# lowered 1.5 inches, or the stock 65# spring. At this point I realize ANYTHING is better than what I have... but I am leaning towards the 140# springs. I commute in the car on nice days but the car is mostly driven for fun, and I REALLY want to start taking it to the track for AX. I thought the 100# was a nice balance in performance and ride... is the 140 pound going to ride too harsh on the road? I guess it's subjective, but I don't want to ruin it's manners on the road where it spends 90% of it's time. But I also want the car to handle really well and I get that I will have to make some compromise. Thoughts? After talking to George I think I am going to send back the Boge shocks and get a set of Bilstein HD and 90 pound springs and lower the rear with the spring perches. Then I am going to drive the wheels off of it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) My current springs are so soft right now a 60 series tire is buried in the rear wheel well so it can only improve. The car is on the street 98% of the time and I think this will handle much better than what I have now and serve as a good base for future upgrades. Final thoughts anyone? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Well a smart motorsport enthusiast always chooses Bilstein so you can't go wrong there! Unfortunately my 914 currently has KYBs installed by the previous owner. (FYI KYB = "Kill Yer Butt" for those who don't already know!) but adjustable Bilsteins with 140lb springs are in my 914s future for certain! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) There's a reason soo many race cars run them and are standard equipment on more performance-luxury cars than any other shock manufacturer; superb handling and stiffness while retaining excellent ride quality that won't break your spine! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I am totally excited to get my parts. I may get stiffer springs in a year or so and do the front suspension at the same time, but for my budget and driving ability this will be plenty good for a while. I don't think I can out drive my car in this set up, and I want to see how addicted I get... Right now I would rather race my road car than drive a race car on the road, but 12-18 months could (probably will) change all of that! Jon, Johnathan, and George were all really helpful and the 90# rear springs with Bilstein HD's seems to be the best compromise of road drivability, budget, and AX fun for me right now. All those guys are awesome. I think I was on the phone for 3 hours today learning about shocks, springs, understeer, oversteer, and planning for future upgrades. Awesome stuff... i love this site... |
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