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> Crankfire vs. Distributor????, anyone have hard numbers????
Mueller
post Mar 17 2004, 06:53 PM
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Does anyone have dyno numbers or know where to point me to for a comparison between the two different types of ignition??

Knowing that I can turn my regular distributor into a fully electronic programmable electronic ignition (okay, it'll still have the rotor which must distribute the spark) I was wondering what the crankfire has over the distributor ignition besides 0 moving parts that can wear out.

for the distributor the path for the spark still needs to go from the coil>rotor>cap>sparkplug wire>sparkplug....

the crankfire is coil>sparkplug wire>sparkplug

what effect does the rotor and cap have on ignition if everything is the same (advance curve and coil rating)????
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post Mar 18 2004, 11:34 PM
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tat2dphreak, forgot to say thanks for the compliment. Stop bowing. I'm just a monkey loose with tools. Once in a while things fall together.

Mark, NICE setup. That's the RIGHT way to do it IMHO. Same goes for you Dave. Thumbs up guys. This is the stuff I love.

Mike, my setup is similar to Mark's. Three magnets and two sensors. Two of the magnets mark TDC and 180-from-TDC. These magets are mounted with a specific pole facing the sensors. One of the sensors reads these two magents only. The third magnet is invisible to this first sensor. The magnets are actually possitioned to pass the sensor about 40 degrees ahead of TDC and 180-of-TDC. The ECU is programmed with this baseline so that it knows when it gets a signal it will be another 40 degrees of rotation before the piston is at the top. That gives it time to prepare a spark to occur at the programmed advance angle before the piston gets to the top. The third magnet is mounted with the oposite pole facing the sensors as the other magnets. One hall sensor only sees the North side of a magnet and the other sensor only sees the South side of a magnet. So one sensor only sees the two opposing magnets, and the second sensor only sees the third magnet. This third magnet leads the TDC magnet by a few degrees. It's just a marker so the ECU can tell which of the opposing magnets is TDC and which is 180 opposed. Now the ECU knows which end of the crank is which so it can fire the right coil at the right time. You probably knew all this - sorry if I bored you. I'm interested in the missing-tooth systems. I am sure they have better resolution especially when rpms are changing very rapidly.

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Mueller   Crankfire vs. Distributor????   Mar 17 2004, 06:53 PM
fiid   Here is some guy spouting "info". http://www.rhin...   Mar 17 2004, 07:08 PM
Brett W   Mike A crank trigger is the only way to go if you...   Mar 17 2004, 07:17 PM
SLITS   Crank trigger is dead accurate due to the lack of ...   Mar 17 2004, 07:26 PM
rdracrdave   The crankfire system is just more precise . The di...   Mar 17 2004, 07:30 PM
lapuwali   Speaking strictly theoretically, if you have the d...   Mar 17 2004, 07:30 PM
Jake Raby   I have used crankfire on the dyno against a 009 as...   Mar 17 2004, 08:14 PM
DNHunt   Megasquirt can already run a Distributorless ignit...   Mar 17 2004, 09:50 PM
lapuwali   There are a number of variations on the EDIS syste...   Mar 17 2004, 10:19 PM
airsix   <...   Mar 18 2004, 03:04 AM
tat2dphreak   :worship: great job airsix!!! how h...   Mar 18 2004, 08:58 AM
Mark Henry   Ya'll like my dizzy??? SDS with crankfire.......   Mar 18 2004, 09:39 AM
airsix   ...   Mar 18 2004, 04:13 PM
fiid   Coilpacks probably don't generate all that muc...   Mar 18 2004, 05:35 PM
jonwatts   <...   Mar 18 2004, 05:43 PM
Jake Raby   Dave, if you are gonna use that on the engine kit ...   Mar 18 2004, 07:52 PM
DNHunt   Jake It's in the box. It's indexed via th...   Mar 18 2004, 09:08 PM
airsix   tat2dphreak, forgot to say thanks for the complime...   Mar 18 2004, 11:34 PM
Mueller   Hey Ben, thanks for the info, yes, I knew that al...   Mar 19 2004, 12:08 AM
airsix   <...   Mar 19 2004, 12:16 AM
Mueller   I'm giving the Haltech back to Brad...at the t...   Mar 19 2004, 12:55 AM
Mark Henry   Hmmm....turbo again :idea: YOU CAN"T TURBO A 914...   Mar 19 2004, 09:03 AM


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