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> Crankfire vs. Distributor????, anyone have hard numbers????
Mueller
post Mar 17 2004, 06:53 PM
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Does anyone have dyno numbers or know where to point me to for a comparison between the two different types of ignition??

Knowing that I can turn my regular distributor into a fully electronic programmable electronic ignition (okay, it'll still have the rotor which must distribute the spark) I was wondering what the crankfire has over the distributor ignition besides 0 moving parts that can wear out.

for the distributor the path for the spark still needs to go from the coil>rotor>cap>sparkplug wire>sparkplug....

the crankfire is coil>sparkplug wire>sparkplug

what effect does the rotor and cap have on ignition if everything is the same (advance curve and coil rating)????
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post Mar 19 2004, 12:55 AM
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I'm giving the Haltech back to Brad...at the time he gave it to me, Megasquirt did not have anything for ignition that complemented the adjustibility of the MS itself.

For fuel, I am using the MS without a doubt, now for ignition I have the choice of using MS'n'spark which uses 4 magnets mounted on the crank for position. The MS'n'Spark keeps the distributor for spark allocation similar to your system.

Another option now available is the MS'n'EDIS which is what Dave has started to install on his new 2.0 that he and his son are going to build.

After seeing Daves install, it's seems the choice now is a no-brainer. I've been without an engine for so long, I had nothing to use for mocking anything up. Now I have an 1.8 to use to get dimensions off of and to test fit the parts. I already have all of the EDIS components, I was not sure if the 36-1 would be able to mount behind the fan, I guess I never saw Daves installation or I just had a brain freeze and forgot about it.

motor? 1.8 temporary to use as a test mule for the turbo...at first I had ditched the turbo idea since I felt I couldn't afford to do it correctly (I still can't, LOL)

since the turbo is already paid for (early subaru FV48 like yours), I figured what the heck?!?!?!? Now the biggest stumbling block is deciding which exhaust system to use and to send off to Jet-Hot.

My two choices are:
used header (european)...this means mounting the turbo way in the back behind the axle or running a really long pipe off of the header to the turbo and mount the turbo up in the engine compartment

or, use late 1.8/2.0 "log" exhaust, I'd use a "Y" pipe to join the two and mount the turbo in the engine compartment.

For the intercooler, I have an early Volvo unit, I'm sure it'll work for now, but a nice modern aluminum unit would be much better.

I am pretty sure both Ed's run thier turbos inside of the engine compartment....as always, there will be comprimises to each method. I am not looking for a high output, high rpm track machine.....bottom end and mid range torque is going to be more important right now. It might be a half-ass way of doing it, but I figure I can always upgrade the turbo at a later date when funds match the need (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Mueller   Crankfire vs. Distributor????   Mar 17 2004, 06:53 PM
fiid   Here is some guy spouting "info". http://www.rhin...   Mar 17 2004, 07:08 PM
Brett W   Mike A crank trigger is the only way to go if you...   Mar 17 2004, 07:17 PM
SLITS   Crank trigger is dead accurate due to the lack of ...   Mar 17 2004, 07:26 PM
rdracrdave   The crankfire system is just more precise . The di...   Mar 17 2004, 07:30 PM
lapuwali   Speaking strictly theoretically, if you have the d...   Mar 17 2004, 07:30 PM
Jake Raby   I have used crankfire on the dyno against a 009 as...   Mar 17 2004, 08:14 PM
DNHunt   Megasquirt can already run a Distributorless ignit...   Mar 17 2004, 09:50 PM
lapuwali   There are a number of variations on the EDIS syste...   Mar 17 2004, 10:19 PM
airsix   <...   Mar 18 2004, 03:04 AM
tat2dphreak   :worship: great job airsix!!! how h...   Mar 18 2004, 08:58 AM
Mark Henry   Ya'll like my dizzy??? SDS with crankfire.......   Mar 18 2004, 09:39 AM
airsix   ...   Mar 18 2004, 04:13 PM
fiid   Coilpacks probably don't generate all that muc...   Mar 18 2004, 05:35 PM
jonwatts   <...   Mar 18 2004, 05:43 PM
Jake Raby   Dave, if you are gonna use that on the engine kit ...   Mar 18 2004, 07:52 PM
DNHunt   Jake It's in the box. It's indexed via th...   Mar 18 2004, 09:08 PM
airsix   tat2dphreak, forgot to say thanks for the complime...   Mar 18 2004, 11:34 PM
Mueller   Hey Ben, thanks for the info, yes, I knew that al...   Mar 19 2004, 12:08 AM
airsix   <...   Mar 19 2004, 12:16 AM
Mueller   I'm giving the Haltech back to Brad...at the t...   Mar 19 2004, 12:55 AM
Mark Henry   Hmmm....turbo again :idea: YOU CAN"T TURBO A 914...   Mar 19 2004, 09:03 AM


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