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> Copper nuts, exhaust leaks!
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post Sep 16 2010, 09:06 PM
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Hello,
I am having a problem with exhaust leaks, I am, for the first time using copper nuts as opposed to the steel with insert and flange Porsche part # 039.256.297 see photo below.

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I would still be using these if I hadn't lost one, and Porsche says these are NLA.
The procedure I would use, after replacing the copper seals, I would use Never Seez on the studs and torque the steel nuts to 16 ft-lbs.

I am not sure if I should use Never Seez with the copper nuts and I am not sure the torque is correct for these fasteners, as they are oval shaped and seem tighter to start with?

Any experience with this would be very helpful.
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Mike
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post Sep 16 2010, 10:35 PM
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Copper is used so it can be cold chiseled off if they are stripped or siezed- or so I was told by my favorite VW shop. They are pretty much SOP for exhaust nuts. I would only torque to 9 or 10 ft lbs- thats enough if all is clean and aligned. Studs pull out like baby teeth after all these years of heat cycling. I really F'd a head after I took my exhaust off too many time getting all obsessed with a little noise.

Make sure you get the old copper sealing rings out of the head. They get stuck in there. I use a little Aluminum duct tape around the sides of the exhaust pipes to hold the copper rings in place for reassembly.
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mgphoto   Copper nuts   Sep 16 2010, 09:06 PM
brer   I believe the Porsche nuts are copper plated, not ...   Sep 16 2010, 09:32 PM
Drums66   I believe the Porsche nuts are copper plated, not...   Sep 17 2010, 11:11 AM
SGB   Copper is used so it can be cold chiseled off if t...   Sep 16 2010, 10:35 PM
mgphoto   Copper is used so it can be cold chiseled off if ...   Sep 17 2010, 12:37 AM
avidfanjpl   Hey I used gasket cement, but superglue is good to...   Sep 17 2010, 01:22 AM
Van   Copper coated. You can get them from NAPA for abo...   Sep 17 2010, 05:25 AM
realred914   i'd still go with the specified torque as poin...   Sep 17 2010, 10:49 AM
mgphoto   i'd still go with the specified torque as poi...   Sep 17 2010, 01:02 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I agree with Dave (realred). It would be well for...   Sep 17 2010, 02:17 PM
mgphoto   I agree with Dave (realred). It would be well fo...   Sep 17 2010, 04:59 PM
Cap'n Krusty   I agree with Dave (realred). It would be well f...   Sep 18 2010, 07:58 AM
mgphoto   [quote name='mgphoto' post='1372291' date='Sep 17...   Sep 18 2010, 09:41 AM
mgphoto   [quote name='mgphoto' post='1372291' date='Sep 1...   Sep 18 2010, 12:30 PM
mgphoto   [quote name='mgphoto' post='1372503' date='Sep 18...   Sep 18 2010, 04:40 PM
brer   [quote name='mgphoto' post='1372503' date='Sep 1...   Sep 18 2010, 06:58 PM
Cap'n Krusty   [quote name='mgphoto' post='1372291' date='Sep 1...   Sep 18 2010, 07:40 PM
charliew   Nickel antisieze is for high temperature. Solid br...   Sep 17 2010, 05:08 PM
Krieger   Didn't someone reccomend heating the copper ga...   Sep 17 2010, 07:58 PM
dangrouche   yes by all means, flame the new copper gaskets til...   Sep 17 2010, 08:42 PM
solex   I had it with the copper plated nuts, and pulling ...   Sep 18 2010, 11:14 AM
mgphoto   I got it to work by using a 10mm x 1.25 helicoil a...   Sep 20 2010, 10:39 AM


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