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> Brake Master Cylinder, 17mm vs 23mm
LotusJoe
post Sep 20 2010, 04:29 PM
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I'm considering upgrading my master cylinder. I have installed the bigger BMW 320 Front Calipers and have Stock Calipers on the rear. I see from other threads that the 19mm master cylinder is a common upgrade, but what about 23mm. Automotion sells a 23mm as an upgrade, but it seem to me that it may to much for my application.
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post Sep 20 2010, 05:27 PM
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More math done...

the surface area of the 17mm mastercylinder is 1.05 square inches.
The surface area of the 19mm mastercylinder is 1.18 square inches.
The surface area of the 23mm mastercylinder is 1.42 square inches.

The total surface area of the pistons in your setup is 20 square inches. In order to move the 8 calipers the .004 to .008 inches necessary to stop your car, you would need to move the piston in the m/c the following distances for each of the m/cs:

17mm: .076 - .152 inches
19mm: .068 - .136 inches
23mm: .056 - .113 inches

edit: Take note, this is the piston movement required. The pedal movement increases according to the lever formula... (note to self: measure pedal arm lengths and include in app)
My personal setup has the 48mm pistons up front as well, and I really like the feel of the 19mm m/c that I have.
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LotusJoe   Brake Master Cylinder   Sep 20 2010, 04:29 PM
underthetire   Do a search, plenty of arguments posts about it.   Sep 20 2010, 04:46 PM
RJMII   With the BMW calipers, the piston diameter is 48 m...   Sep 20 2010, 04:48 PM
LotusJoe   It would appear I'm better off staying with th...   Sep 20 2010, 04:57 PM
Tom_T   It would appear I'm better off staying with t...   Sep 22 2010, 05:15 PM
RJMII   Not necessarily, The formula I am still workin...   Sep 20 2010, 05:04 PM
RJMII   More math done... the surface area of the 17mm ...   Sep 20 2010, 05:27 PM
pcar916   The fluid volume is a key element as is the pad ar...   Sep 20 2010, 05:28 PM
McMark   Read this classic thread. RIP Lapuwali. Gone too...   Sep 20 2010, 06:31 PM
RJMII   Read this classic thread. RIP Lapuwali. Gone to...   Sep 20 2010, 06:38 PM
Brett W   I ran the stock front calipers on the rears and 32...   Sep 22 2010, 06:44 PM
bmtrnavsky   I am running a 19MM Master cylinder on my car with...   Sep 22 2010, 07:14 PM
Todd Enlund   Slight correction: Pressure in a closed system is...   Sep 23 2010, 12:08 AM
RJMII   Slight correction: Pressure in a closed system i...   Sep 23 2010, 08:49 AM
Todd Enlund   Slight correction: Pressure in a closed system ...   Sep 23 2010, 12:16 PM
Racer Chris   Slight correction: Pressure in a closed system i...   Sep 23 2010, 11:22 AM
Todd Enlund   Slight correction: Pressure in a closed system ...   Sep 23 2010, 12:10 PM
Racer Chris   Not since Jim edited his post and changed "p...   Sep 23 2010, 01:25 PM
ellisor3   I found this interesting article a while ago. It i...   Sep 23 2010, 05:44 AM
jhadler   One of more often overlooked issues surrounding a ...   Sep 23 2010, 09:34 AM
RJMII   blah blah blah nit pick blah blah blah. I did th...   Sep 23 2010, 01:10 PM
ruby914   I have the 320I brakes and took off the 23mm MC an...   Sep 24 2010, 01:05 AM


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