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> Creamsicle Project, Still tinkering... now it's running!
poorsche914
post Sep 6 2010, 05:57 PM
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I finally decided to tackle getting my LE started and thought the long Labor Day weekend would be the perfect time. I had already replaced the fuel tank and lines up front and had sourced '74 FI parts and bought a new Optima battery. The final piece to the puzzle was a working fuel pump which I got a couple weeks ago.

So this weekend I installed the pump and put power to it. It ran but wasn't pumping fuel up to the engine. I heard gurgling from the tank. Low fuel level. So I added more gas and tried again. Success! Fuel was now being pumped to the fuel rail but there were several leaks. Took care of these and cranked it. Nothing. Pulled two injectors and saw they were not firing. Swapped out harnesses and more of the same. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I have both a single progressive and dual 40s. I seriously contemplated pulling the FI and installing the single Weber after a rebuild just to get the car running. After chatting with mipstein I had a few things I thought I should try first. I put power to each injector and they all fired so that took bad injectors out of the equation. I looked over pbanders d-jet page for clues. Somewhere along the way I realized the ECU was not getting power and perhaps the relay board was suspect. Having two extra boards, I picked one, transferred relays, etc and plugged it into the 914's harnesses. Turned the key, let fuel pressure build, cranked it and she fired right up!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif)

Vacuum lines, etc aren't hooked up so it revved high before I turned it off. Next step is to hook up all the vac lines (and install new shift bushings, install accel pedal, etc, etc) Goal is to have it on the road for MUSR11 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif)
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post Oct 8 2010, 07:28 PM
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How do you know the engine isn't locked up?

It seems weird that the boom from the engine now caused the starter not to engage the engine.

How much voltage do you have at the battery? Have you been charging it in between trying to get it running?

Is the engine timed correctly? When was the last time you started the engine?

Are you still running the FI?

Is the CHT sender connected? What is its resistance to ground? I had an issue when I couldn't get the car started (DJet). I disconnected the power connector to the brain and it started right up then died. Turns out the CHT was disconnected and the engine wouldn't run because it was flooding.
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post Oct 8 2010, 08:26 PM
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QUOTE(Spoke @ Oct 8 2010, 09:28 PM) *
How do you know the engine isn't locked up?
I put the car in gear and pushed it back and forth.
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It seems weird that the boom from the engine now caused the starter not to engage the engine.
I agree. Don't think one has anything to do with the other.
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How much voltage do you have at the battery? Have you been charging it in between trying to get it running?
Yes, freshly charged. Cranked fine the time it did start.
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Is the engine timed correctly? When was the last time you started the engine?
Car sat for 10+ years since last being run. Maybe 20 years. I purchased car in May. FI had incorrect ECU, injectors, etc. Put correct FI pieces on the car and got it running for a very short time with old vacuum lines. Installed new lines yesterday.
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Are you still running the FI?
Yes.
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Is the CHT sender connected? What is its resistance to ground? I had an issue when I couldn't get the car started (DJet). I disconnected the power connector to the brain and it started right up then died. Turns out the CHT was disconnected and the engine wouldn't run because it was flooding.
Yes, the CHT is connected. Have not checked resistance.

When trying to start today, it would turn over fine but acted like no fuel or spark. The only things I had done when it did fire up was remove the advance line and plug the nipple on the throttle body and sprayed some starting fluid down the intake. It fired right up on 3 cylinders as I had one wire unplugged to check for spark. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

Going to pull the starter tomorrow. I think I have a spare somewhere - just have to find it.


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poorsche914   Creamsicle Project   Sep 6 2010, 05:57 PM
NC_Colfax   From what I have read the single weber is poo and ...   Sep 6 2010, 07:11 PM
PanelBilly   Next week I start stripping mine for a full paint ...   Sep 6 2010, 09:45 PM
hot_shoe914   I finally decided to tackle getting my LE started...   Sep 6 2010, 10:08 PM
poorsche914   Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it las...   Oct 8 2010, 02:42 PM
hot_shoe914   Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it la...   Oct 8 2010, 05:58 PM
poorsche914   The starter just clicking sounds like solenoid. ...   Oct 8 2010, 06:18 PM
dvtorr   Got a vacuum line kit from AA and installed it la...   Oct 10 2010, 12:36 PM
poorsche914   is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same th...   Oct 10 2010, 12:43 PM
hot_shoe914   is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same t...   Oct 10 2010, 12:46 PM
poorsche914   Back up a step. You said you swapped out the rela...   Oct 10 2010, 12:57 PM
dvtorr   is it a click or more like a clunk sounds? Same t...   Oct 10 2010, 01:29 PM
poorsche914   Did you ever try to push start your car before yo...   Oct 10 2010, 01:33 PM
poorsche914   After mulling this over and searching the forums f...   Oct 10 2010, 06:53 PM
hot_shoe914   After mulling this over and searching the forums ...   Oct 10 2010, 07:52 PM
Spoke   Could the ignition switch be faulty? Thanks for ...   Oct 10 2010, 08:11 PM
poorsche914   jt - will check those wires tomorrow. Thanks for t...   Oct 10 2010, 08:23 PM
swl   Could the ignition switch be faulty? That's...   Oct 12 2010, 02:46 PM
poorsche914   Could the ignition switch be faulty? That's ...   Oct 12 2010, 03:00 PM
Spoke   How do you know the engine isn't locked up? I...   Oct 8 2010, 07:28 PM
poorsche914   How do you know the engine isn't locked up?I p...   Oct 8 2010, 08:26 PM
poorsche914   Pulled the starter this morning and applied the BF...   Oct 9 2010, 09:52 AM
hot_shoe914   Pulled the starter this morning and applied the B...   Oct 9 2010, 10:57 AM
Spoke   :headbanger: Good show! This is the opposit...   Oct 10 2010, 05:16 AM
poorsche914   Main goal of getting the engine started has been r...   Oct 10 2010, 11:44 AM
hot_shoe914   Main goal of getting the engine started has been ...   Oct 10 2010, 12:06 PM
JRust   Are the gages connected? Have you had them out sin...   Oct 10 2010, 12:09 PM
poorsche914   Yeah, did the obvious of checking fuses, grounds, ...   Oct 10 2010, 12:21 PM
hot_shoe914   I know why you can't get it fixed. Because you...   Oct 10 2010, 01:03 PM
poorsche914   I currently have no way to do electrical tests. Wi...   Oct 10 2010, 01:12 PM
hot_shoe914   I currently have no way to do electrical tests. W...   Oct 10 2010, 01:29 PM
jt914-6   Check all the large guage wires, four, that connec...   Oct 10 2010, 08:01 PM
ClayPerrine   Bring it to MUSR and I will take a look at it for ...   Oct 11 2010, 11:07 AM
poorsche914   Bring it to MUSR and I will take a look at it for...   Oct 11 2010, 11:28 AM
poorsche914   Long story short, I had swapped out the fuel pump ...   Oct 12 2010, 09:32 AM
type47   Just a guess, but your turn signal/emergency flash...   Oct 12 2010, 09:47 AM
poorsche914   Just a guess, but your turn signal/emergency flas...   Oct 12 2010, 09:50 AM
jt914-6   Trailer it down if you can....as Clay said...there...   Oct 12 2010, 09:55 AM
poorsche914   Trailer it down if you can....as Clay said...ther...   Oct 12 2010, 10:09 AM
jt914-6   How far away are you from Knoxville/Vonore???   Oct 12 2010, 10:27 AM
poorsche914   How far away are you from Knoxville/Vonore??? Ab...   Oct 12 2010, 10:30 AM
poorsche914   Started swapping out relays on the board to see wh...   Oct 12 2010, 02:41 PM
jt914-6   PM Shoe....I think he has both switch and fuel pum...   Oct 12 2010, 03:06 PM
poorsche914   PM Shoe....I think he has both switch and fuel pu...   Oct 12 2010, 03:09 PM
robby750   You are so close to Vonore that it would be worth ...   Oct 12 2010, 03:11 PM
poorsche914   You are so close to Vonore that it would be worth...   Oct 12 2010, 03:15 PM
poorsche914   Well... I swapped out fuel pumps again <_< ...   Oct 13 2010, 10:57 AM
hot_shoe914   Well... I swapped out fuel pumps again <_...   Oct 13 2010, 05:19 PM
poorsche914   Does this mean you are driving it to the ramble? I...   Oct 13 2010, 05:40 PM
Spoke   Right front caliper is sticking pretty bad. :( ...   Oct 13 2010, 05:47 PM
poorsche914   The right front caliper was sticking on my 914. I ...   Oct 13 2010, 06:33 PM
poorsche914   Update: Used some PBlaster on the front caliper ...   Oct 22 2010, 12:09 PM


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