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> When to Align Bore a Type IV case
Kansas 914
post Oct 18 2010, 08:22 AM
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When does one decide a case has to be align bored? I have a GC case that I am getting ready to take to the shop to check for register collapse but have no idea what the criteria might be to consider align boring.

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post Oct 18 2010, 01:19 PM
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........A crankcase that NEEDS align-boring is a crankcase that is worn out, and has seen plenty of use /or abuse. Many of the other register points are probably toast also....check the cam bore, check the case/crank end play area,.check the cylinder register area , and finding bearings can be a problem....Just get a good replacement case and save yourself a lot of grief.....clean and assemble the crankcase...(only)...with ALL the fasterners torqued to factory specs., then take it to a competant (vw) machine shop for an inspection. Then you will know.
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post Oct 26 2010, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE(ME733 @ Oct 18 2010, 12:19 PM) *

........A crankcase that NEEDS align-boring is a crankcase that is worn out, and has seen plenty of use /or abuse. Many of the other register points are probably toast also....check the cam bore, check the case/crank end play area,.check the cylinder register area , and finding bearings can be a problem....Just get a good replacement case and save yourself a lot of grief.....clean and assemble the crankcase...(only)...with ALL the fasterners torqued to factory specs., then take it to a competant (vw) machine shop for an inspection. Then you will know.


Mayor,
This isn't a 356 engine. Very little of the things you have stated here apply directly to the Type 4 engine.

Align bore is necessary when the case no longer meets the sizing requirements of the NEW BEARINGS that you will be using. The bearing OD and ID of most new bearings are not compliant with the factory oversizes of yesterday. Due to this cases must be cut to properly fit the bearing that will be used. One of the biggest mistakes one can make now is to use the factory specs in case sizing, because the bearings are no longer consistently sized.

That said, most STANDARD OD bearings are also no longer the same dimension that they were, so this means that some cases that needed to be align bored in the past can use a certain bearing that consistently measures .001 larger on the OD and NOT need to be align bored to arrive at the proper bearing crush.

Alignbore sizes are chosen with bearing crush as a primary function. Unless the shop cutting the case for align bore has the new bearings that will be used, it will be impossible for them to align bore the crankcase correctly to arrive at the target bearing crush. Any shop that is willing to attempt this process without requiring the new bearings should be avoided at all costs. These places haven't had the required experience to understand that nothing remains the same after 35-40 years of engine application and they'll be doing you no favors.

When we align bore cases we don't accept every one that comes through the door and the work isn't cheap because of the effort required and the pain that was endured to learn the correct way of doing this with the components available in the 21st Century.

Align bore can literally "Make or break" the entire engine project. Done improperly the engine can run 30 seconds and seize with a gut wrenching squeal that screams you just wasted your time and money. Been there.

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Kansas 914   When to Align Bore a Type IV case   Oct 18 2010, 08:22 AM
DNHunt   One of the first is can you get bearings. It may b...   Oct 18 2010, 08:47 AM
Kansas 914   One of the first is can you get bearings. It may ...   Oct 18 2010, 09:01 AM
Vacca Rabite   if you have a new set of bearings, do not align bo...   Oct 18 2010, 09:28 AM
Kansas 914   if you have a new set of bearings, do not align b...   Oct 18 2010, 09:30 AM
John Jentz   Put the case together, torque the fasteners, measu...   Oct 18 2010, 09:36 AM
Kansas 914   Put the case together, torque the fasteners, meas...   Oct 18 2010, 09:45 AM
Vacca Rabite   Any machine shop should have a straight edge, and ...   Oct 18 2010, 12:55 PM
Kansas 914   Any machine shop should have a straight edge, and...   Oct 18 2010, 01:03 PM
ME733   ........A crankcase that NEEDS align-boring is a c...   Oct 18 2010, 01:19 PM
Jake Raby   ........A crankcase that NEEDS align-boring is a ...   Oct 26 2010, 05:47 AM
HAM Inc   Getting the spigots machined properly requires th...   Oct 18 2010, 01:29 PM
Kansas 914   Getting the spigots machined properly requires t...   Oct 18 2010, 02:04 PM
Chris Hamilton   Rimco in Southern California does a great job with...   Oct 18 2010, 06:37 PM
Kansas 914   Since a correct and good case is crucial to ALL bu...   Oct 25 2010, 10:32 AM
brer   Decking a case requires a fixture to hold the case...   Oct 25 2010, 12:37 PM
930cabman   What is the rough amount of crush we are looking f...   Oct 18 2022, 10:53 AM


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