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tracer
post Oct 24 2010, 03:01 PM
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Hi all, have an oil leak that I have been trying to fix for over a month and 4 main seals. Symptom is oil coming from hole between transmission and case. My first thought were that I needed to replace the main crank seal, well long story, when this thing is leaking it seems you need to to drive at freeway speed for a little while and when you stop and look under the car the entire passenger side has oil slung on the roof and all over the trans and muffler, but only on the passenger side. Today removed the transmission and the inside cavity is covered with oil, this is engine oil and not gear oil. Removed the flywheel and seal looked dry?? Have been cleaning and scanning for anyplace oil could come from. Seems like the drivers side case shell is moist with oil and passenger side is dry. This should be an easy fix but I can't think of another place to check. Could I have a micro crack and oil leaking out under pressure from an oil galley? The oil galley plug on drivers side has been epoxied in and the passenger side has been tapped and plugged. Help!!!
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post Nov 1 2010, 08:27 AM
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you did read that the victor -reinz seal is not good per go westy? excerpt below:

"Anyway, what we found was that the common seal that comes in ALL the gasket kits has two problems. The first is that they are too narrow (width), front to back. So, when you install them in a Waterboxer, you can put them in too far, not far enough, or catty-wompus (that's Randall's technical jargon for eccentrically mis-aligned). We found one seal that was the correct thickness, a Victor-Reinz part that was all orange, and sold separately--in it's own box and everything. Interestingly, it is NOT the same seal that is included in the Victor-Reinz full engine gasket set. Go figure. So we thought, viola! We don't have to buy the stupid expensive seal at VW. WRONG. What Randall correctly pointed out is that the OE VW seal comes designed with a considerably heavier spring. None of the other seals have a spring nearly as heavy. Kudos, Randall.

What is even more interesting about this VW dealer only seal is that, A) It is all black and, It is made in Brazil (SABO brand). These two traits are typically what we refer in the industry as, well, CRAP. But, you can't argue with success, right?

So, we bought every seal VW had in the United States. Starting about five engines ago, we have switched to the VW dealer only seal. We are keeping track of which engines have them with an extra "dot" next to the engine displacement stamp we put on each GoWesty engine. Let's see if the seal is worth it. If it turns out to be the fix, I may have a trip to Rio De Janeiro in my future...

For now, if you need a flywheel seal for your waterboxer (029-105-245), we got them for $29.95 In fact, last I checked with VW, we got ALL of them! Click here to grab a new Rear Main Seal.

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you did read that the victor -reinz seal is not good per go westy? excerpt below:

"Anyway, what we found was that the common seal that comes in ALL the gasket kits has two problems. The first is that they are too narrow (width), front to back. So, when you install them in a Waterboxer, you can put them in too far, not far enough, or catty-wompus (that's Randall's technical jargon for eccentrically mis-aligned). We found one seal that was the correct thickness, a Victor-Reinz part that was all orange, and sold separately--in it's own box and everything. Interestingly, it is NOT the same seal that is included in the Victor-Reinz full engine gasket set. Go figure. So we thought, viola! We don't have to buy the stupid expensive seal at VW. WRONG. What Randall correctly pointed out is that the OE VW seal comes designed with a considerably heavier spring. None of the other seals have a spring nearly as heavy. Kudos, Randall.

What is even more interesting about this VW dealer only seal is that, A) It is all black and, It is made in Brazil (SABO brand). These two traits are typically what we refer in the industry as, well, CRAP. But, you can't argue with success, right?

So, we bought every seal VW had in the United States. Starting about five engines ago, we have switched to the VW dealer only seal. We are keeping track of which engines have them with an extra "dot" next to the engine displacement stamp we put on each GoWesty engine. Let's see if the seal is worth it. If it turns out to be the fix, I may have a trip to Rio De Janeiro in my future...

For now, if you need a flywheel seal for your waterboxer (029-105-245), we got them for $29.95 In fact, last I checked with VW, we got ALL of them! Click here to grab a new Rear Main Seal.


Locals in the biz take anything Lucas says with a grain of salt and a healthy dose of skepticism.

I'm jus' sayin'.

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tracer   Oil leak behind flywheel I can't find   Oct 24 2010, 03:01 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You don't mention the flywheel o-ring. Have y...   Oct 24 2010, 03:35 PM
tracer   You don't mention the flywheel o-ring. Have ...   Oct 24 2010, 05:20 PM
Lennies914   Is there oil dripping off of the oil filter? This ...   Oct 24 2010, 03:42 PM
tracer   Is there oil dripping off of the oil filter? This...   Oct 24 2010, 05:24 PM
96740   I've had the same leak in my car ever since I ...   Oct 24 2010, 04:49 PM
Jake Raby   I bet you are using Elring main seals, aren't ...   Oct 24 2010, 05:55 PM
tracer   I bet you are using Elring main seals, aren't...   Oct 24 2010, 06:55 PM
tracer   I bet you are using Elring main seals, aren...   Oct 26 2010, 09:19 AM
Borderline   I bet you are using Elring main seals, aren...   Oct 26 2010, 09:41 AM
tracer   Still waiting on seal from Jake Raby's Store, ...   Oct 28 2010, 12:53 PM
realred914   has Tracer traced the problem down yet? :DRUNK: :...   Oct 28 2010, 01:08 PM
realred914   GoWesty website has a write up on the engine seal ...   Oct 28 2010, 01:11 PM
tracer   OK, I am really bummed now. Replaced the seal wi...   Oct 31 2010, 01:32 PM
realred914   OK, I am really bummed now. Replaced the seal w...   Oct 31 2010, 01:50 PM
Jake Raby   Sounds like a leaky galley plug or cam plug.. What...   Oct 31 2010, 02:52 PM
tracer   Sounds like a leaky galley plug or cam plug.. Wha...   Oct 31 2010, 09:42 PM
realred914   Sounds like a leaky galley plug or cam plug.. Wh...   Nov 1 2010, 08:29 AM
Jake Raby   Sounds like a leaky galley plug or cam plug.. Wh...   Nov 1 2010, 06:13 PM
tradisrad   I had a mystery leak and as I recall oil was comin...   Oct 31 2010, 09:51 PM
realred914   you did read that the victor -reinz seal is not go...   Nov 1 2010, 08:27 AM
Cap'n Krusty   you did read that the victor -reinz seal is not g...   Nov 1 2010, 07:27 PM
realred914   [quote name='realred914' post='1389336' date='Nov...   Nov 2 2010, 09:41 AM
tracer   I don't have the oil pressure gauge. But did r...   Nov 8 2010, 01:28 PM
realred914   :flag1: :sawzall: :santa: :rotfl: :popcorn: :...   Nov 9 2010, 10:18 AM
tracer   I will get the dye and take a look, does the local...   Nov 10 2010, 07:41 AM
realred914   I will get the dye and take a look, does the loca...   Nov 10 2010, 11:22 AM
76-914   :popcorn:   Nov 10 2010, 09:17 AM


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