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> 4 Cylinder 911 based motor, Polo - by Dean Polopolus of APE, Inc.
bcheney
post Nov 7 2010, 04:23 PM
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I went to the Winter Park, Florida Concours De Elegance today and saw one of the coolest Porsche cars I have ever seen. It was a 356 "Special" built by Emory Motorsports. It has a 4 cylinder, 911 based motor. Dean Polopolus. Owner of APE, Inc. has engineered a powerful high performance piece of machinery by developing the Polo 4 cylinder 911. The Crank case has been casted and machined and is now in various cars all over the world. Glad I went to this event today....Have you guys ever seen or heard of this motor?



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post Nov 9 2010, 10:37 AM
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a 6 in a 356 takes a lot of work and setup to make it not handle like a boat.


But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the TIV is the same weight as a fully dressed 356 engine...
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post Nov 9 2010, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 9 2010, 11:37 AM) *

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a 6 in a 356 takes a lot of work and setup to make it not handle like a boat.


But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the TIV is the same weight as a fully dressed 356 engine...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.aircooledtechnology.com-1095-1289320675.1.jpg)


And there is the point.
10K will get you a heck of a nice T4.
10K will get you a great Subaru conversion with enough power to kill the transmission - with near zero added weight.
15K will get you a totally bitch'n T4.

No matter what engine you put in it, its a conversion car with a lowered resale.

While the 4 engine here is undoubtably cool, I don't know that this engine could do anything that the T4 or Scoob could not do at 1/2 or 3/4 the price - and down the line it will be very hard to find parts for if it needs them.

Then again, I may be looking at it from the point of view of a guy with insufficient bankroll to appreciate such things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ?

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QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Nov 9 2010, 10:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 9 2010, 11:37 AM) *

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a 6 in a 356 takes a lot of work and setup to make it not handle like a boat.


But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the TIV is the same weight as a fully dressed 356 engine...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.aircooledtechnology.com-1095-1289320675.1.jpg)


And there is the point.
10K will get you a heck of a nice T4.
10K will get you a great Subaru conversion with enough power to kill the transmission - with near zero added weight.
15K will get you a totally bitch'n T4.

No matter what engine you put in it, its a conversion car with a lowered resale.

While the 4 engine here is undoubtably cool, I don't know that this engine could do anything that the T4 or Scoob could not do at 1/2 or 3/4 the price - and down the line it will be very hard to find parts for if it needs them.

Then again, I may be looking at it from the point of view of a guy with insufficient bankroll to appreciate such things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ?

Zach


This absolutely about the uniqueness and cool factor and best of all its all porsche (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)
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post Nov 9 2010, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(nein14 @ Nov 9 2010, 01:02 PM) *

QUOTE(Vacca Rabite @ Nov 9 2010, 10:08 AM) *

QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Nov 9 2010, 11:37 AM) *

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a 6 in a 356 takes a lot of work and setup to make it not handle like a boat.


But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the TIV is the same weight as a fully dressed 356 engine...
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.aircooledtechnology.com-1095-1289320675.1.jpg)


And there is the point.
10K will get you a heck of a nice T4.
10K will get you a great Subaru conversion with enough power to kill the transmission - with near zero added weight.
15K will get you a totally bitch'n T4.

No matter what engine you put in it, its a conversion car with a lowered resale.

While the 4 engine here is undoubtably cool, I don't know that this engine could do anything that the T4 or Scoob could not do at 1/2 or 3/4 the price - and down the line it will be very hard to find parts for if it needs them.

Then again, I may be looking at it from the point of view of a guy with insufficient bankroll to appreciate such things. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) ?

Zach


This absolutely about the uniqueness and cool factor and best of all its all porsche (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)



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bcheney   4 Cylinder 911 based motor   Nov 7 2010, 04:23 PM
bcheney   Here is a photo of the car owned by Mr. Kranz of O...   Nov 7 2010, 04:31 PM
bcheney   Mr. Kranz told me the motor makes 160 bhp and has ...   Nov 7 2010, 04:37 PM
bcheney   Ok I'll stop after one last picture of the nos...   Nov 7 2010, 04:42 PM
jsayre914   Sure is pretty :wub: Didnt see the price anywher...   Nov 7 2010, 04:49 PM
scotty b   He's been doing this for a couple of years ( 5...   Nov 7 2010, 05:02 PM
mepstein   I looked this up a year ago and IIRC prices starte...   Nov 7 2010, 05:07 PM
carr914   B)-->
QUOTE(scotty b @ N...   Nov 7 2010, 05:09 PM
JmuRiz   Local 356 guy has one, missed the 356 show this ye...   Nov 7 2010, 05:09 PM
campbellcj   Very cool. I don't know if it was the same guy...   Nov 7 2010, 05:10 PM
Jake Raby   The original concept was that of Chuck Beck.. He d...   Nov 7 2010, 05:20 PM
URY914   I saw that car about 4 years ago at a PCA event in...   Nov 7 2010, 05:30 PM
carr914   The original concept was that of Chuck Beck.. He ...   Nov 7 2010, 05:31 PM
Socalandy   Ahhhh, A 4 cyl. motor that requires an oil tank ...   Nov 7 2010, 06:48 PM
bcheney   Jake, I didnt ask him how much $$ he h...   Nov 7 2010, 08:23 PM
Jake Raby   Starts around 20 grand last I heard.   Nov 7 2010, 08:34 PM
rdauenhauer   I dont get it? What heads are used?   Nov 8 2010, 05:27 PM
scotty b   I dont get it? What heads are used? 911 It...   Nov 8 2010, 06:04 PM
mepstein   I've worked on many automobiles over the years...   Nov 8 2010, 08:08 PM
Derek Seymour   I have wanted one for a 912 for years!!...   Nov 8 2010, 08:18 PM
JmuRiz   If I had all the money I wish I had, one of those ...   Nov 8 2010, 08:14 PM
scotty b   If I had all the money I wish I had, one of those...   Nov 8 2010, 09:14 PM
URY914   If I had all the money I'd take two -6's a...   Nov 8 2010, 08:25 PM
Jake Raby   I've had quite a bit of exposure to the Carrer...   Nov 8 2010, 09:46 PM
Vacca Rabite   I'll be "That Guy." Aside from the ...   Nov 9 2010, 08:10 AM
mepstein   I'll be "That Guy." Aside from the...   Nov 9 2010, 09:13 AM
JmuRiz   I'll be "That Guy." Aside from th...   Nov 9 2010, 09:59 AM
nein14   :wub: :wub: I went to the Winter Park, Florida C...   Nov 9 2010, 08:31 AM
Jake Raby   But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the ...   Nov 9 2010, 10:37 AM
Vacca Rabite   But not a TIV... In fact in conversion form the...   Nov 9 2010, 11:08 AM
nein14   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='1392563' date='Nov ...   Nov 9 2010, 12:02 PM
mepstein   [quote name='Jake Raby' post='1392563' date='Nov...   Nov 9 2010, 02:49 PM
bandjoey   "This absolutely about the uniqueness and coo...   Nov 9 2010, 12:28 PM
Jake Raby   The beauty of the TIV in that 356 is the 100% bolt...   Nov 9 2010, 12:41 PM
JmuRiz   Good point. Maybe I'll tell that to a local g...   Nov 9 2010, 12:57 PM
ME733   ....Included in the "cool factor" are a ...   Nov 9 2010, 03:09 PM
mepstein   I get it.   Nov 9 2010, 05:24 PM
Jake Raby   Here is another example from the Dana Point concou...   Nov 9 2010, 07:36 PM
kg6dxn   Well, I'll be that "other guy". If I...   Nov 9 2010, 07:47 PM

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