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| realred914 |
Nov 13 2010, 08:08 PM
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what are the trick mods for performance power when building a D-jet motor . it is a tired 2 liter that will be getting a big bore 2056 piston kit.
what are recommendations for valves, porting compresion , etc.... will be a driver car 91 octane gas, , have SS heater exchanger, and I do want heat. what can be done during rebuild to beef up the power???? |
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| Bleyseng |
Nov 15 2010, 11:31 AM
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,037 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Look at this for head info on the LE180 -http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=82&Itemid=96-
this is fairly technical but there isn't a "How to Preformance rebuild 914 Heads for Dummies" youtube video that I know of its how Jake and Len make their living. Raby 95-- cam/valve train upgrade kit works fantastic with Djet. cylinders bored out to 96mm with new Keith Black pistons to match... CR from 8 to 9 to one Rods have notched for oil squirting balance everything! Really, if you just want to build without hassle the "Best" 2056 engine just order a kit as its all ready to assemble with parts that fit with the proper clearances. Buying parts from all kinds of different suppliers will create some difficulties but you will learn alot ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
| realred914 |
Nov 15 2010, 12:00 PM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,086 Joined: 1-April 10 From: california Member No.: 11,541 Region Association: None |
Look at this for head info on the LE180 -http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=82&Itemid=96- this is fairly technical but there isn't a "How to Preformance rebuild 914 Heads for Dummies" youtube video that I know of its how Jake and Len make their living. Raby 95-- cam/valve train upgrade kit works fantastic with Djet. cylinders bored out to 96mm with new Keith Black pistons to match... CR from 8 to 9 to one Rods have notched for oil squirting balance everything! Really, if you just want to build without hassle the "Best" 2056 engine just order a kit as its all ready to assemble with parts that fit with the proper clearances. Buying parts from all kinds of different suppliers will create some difficulties but you will learn alot ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) Ok got it now, thanks, hard for me to find the info on rabys site, he has a lot of stuff on it see below: "Technical specifications for the RAT LE 180-914 cylinder heads: Head casting type- NEW 2.0L Bus castings modified to 2.0/914 Combustion chamber shape- exact digitized replica of the 2.0-914 combustion chamber Combustion chamber volume- 56cc+/- Spark plug location- 2.0 914 location. Plug relocated from conventional location to promote efficiency, chamber strength and aesthetics for 2.0 engine owners. Spark plug diameter- 12mm, reduced from 14mm to enhance chamber strength and help resist cracking related to potential over heating (should it occur) Valve sizes- 42mm Intake/ 36mm Exhaust Port work- Fully digitized CNC machined intake and exhaust ports that flow within 2% of the OEM 2.0 914 cylinder head! Valve type- Stainless Steel Valve Springs- RAT single heavy duty. Will control valves to 6,250 RPM +/- dependant upon camshaft and valve train mass. Valve spring pressures- 215#@ .500 lift/ 120# seated Retainers- Chromoly steel Intake manifold pattern- original 4 stud pattern, no alterations made. Port matched manifolds are not included in the price. Installer is responsible for port matching manifolds. OPTIONAL "3 studding" available at added expense " so what I gather is offered by raby is a new bus head modified to replicate the 2 liter 914 head with smaller diameter spark plug threads but same chamber and ports. and same valve sizes. does this seem right? So it appears I can fix my heads to be more or less the same not sure if i will change the plug hole or not. so the stock valves work with the raby cam (still have no idea which cam to choose, several are offered) I also see Elgin cams offers some choices on performance cams that are D-jet compatible, (for example 330 cam(shown in bold print below)) has any one used these cams? It was suggested by Elgin to clearance some metal on the heads that support a stud (if I remember right) that should help performacne. has anyone done that modification? Elgin Cams listing:...................................... "PORSCHE 914 PROFILES On the 7208 and wilder grinds we recommend having a slot cut down the middle of the timing gear to create two rows of teeth. This helps reduce oil throw off and oil foaming at high rpms. Lifters must always be reconditioned or replaced. Beware of aftermarket 914 lifters, some of them are of very poor quality. INTAKE ROCKER ARM RATIO = 1.3:1 EXHAUST ROCKER ARM RATIO = 1.25:1 GRIND NO. SEAT DURATION CAM LIFT LASH APPLICATION 64508-H 258 258 .294 .294 I HYD. E HYD HYDRAULIC LIFTER. WILL WORK WITH F.I. 6508-H 260 260 .292 .292 I HYD. E HYD HYDRAULIC LIFTER STREET GRIND A LITTLE ROUGH WITH F.I. 68508-H 274 274 .302 .302 I HYD. E HYD PERFORMANCE HYDRAULIC, MORE COMP, & GOOD EXH. SYSTEM. 914 255 254 .296 .282 I STD. E STD. STOCK SOLID LIFTER GRIND. 330-1 256 255 .296 .296 I STD. E STD. IMPROVED STOCK. MORE LOBE AREA THAN STOCK. GOOD W/ F.I. 6408-18 256 256 .296 .296 I STD. E STD. WIDE TORQUE BAND. A LITTLE ROUGH WITH FUEL INJECTION. 66508-19 266 266 .305 .305 I STD. E STD. CARBS REQUIRED. SMOOTH IDLE, 1500-4500 RPM. M6708-18 268 268 .314 .314 I STD. E STD. REQUIRES CARB AND A GOOD EXHAUST SYSTEM. 7008-17 280 280 .333 .333 I STD. E STD. BIG BORE KIT, CARBS, 9:1 AND HEADER, 2000-6000 RPM 7208-17 288 288 .333 .333 I STD. E STD. BIG BORE KIT, 9.5:1, CARBS, AND HEADER 2500-6000 RPM 7207-19 288 288 .369 .369 I STD. E STD. HOT STREET - AUTOCROSS. 9.5+:1, 2500-7000 RPM. 7508-18 300 300 .350 .350 I STD. E STD. AUTOCROSS. 10.5:1, 3800-7300 RPM. 7708-17 308 308 .369 .369 I .008 E .010 FULL RACE. 11.5:1, 3800-7300 RPM. |
realred914 what have you done with stock FI and performance mods? Nov 13 2010, 08:08 PM
rdauenhauer check out the eng. FS in my signature :wavebye: . Nov 13 2010, 08:17 PM
Bleyseng My recommendation is
Raby cam and lifters-(9950 or... Nov 14 2010, 09:20 AM
realred914
My recommendation is
Raby cam and lifters-(9950 o... Nov 14 2010, 10:58 AM
Jake Raby
[quote name='Bleyseng' post='1394327' date='Nov 1... Nov 14 2010, 08:57 PM
realred914
[quote name='Bleyseng' post='1394327' date='Nov ... Nov 15 2010, 10:18 AM
Root_Werks Loose the D-Jet! :D Nov 15 2010, 12:10 PM
realred914
Loose the D-Jet! :D
sorry not an option f... Nov 15 2010, 12:31 PM
Jake Raby
Partially. The smaller plugs make for stronger c... Nov 15 2010, 01:03 PM
realred914
Partially. The smaller plugs make for stronger ... Nov 15 2010, 04:44 PM
tradisrad I am happy with Jakes cam, but I got one w/o the p... Nov 15 2010, 01:06 PM
Cap'n Krusty Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've u... Nov 15 2010, 05:58 PM
Jake Raby
Over the last 37 (almost 38!) years I've ... Nov 15 2010, 06:59 PM
rdauenhauer
I do understand that I can send my MPS to Bleysen... Nov 15 2010, 06:04 PM
Root_Werks
I do understand that I can send my MPS to Bleyse... Nov 16 2010, 02:56 PM
TargaToy For you guys with experience, what kind of power c... Nov 15 2010, 09:23 PM
Jake Raby
For you guys with experience, what kind of power ... Nov 15 2010, 09:37 PM
roadster fan
Is there no hope to make 120-130 hp with a tuned ... Nov 22 2010, 03:08 PM
Bleyseng
Is there no hope to make 120-130 hp with a tuned... Nov 23 2010, 10:14 AM
TargaToy That's good stuff, Jake.
How about with a 191... Nov 15 2010, 09:44 PM
draganc @realred914, what is your budget?
you know that ... Nov 15 2010, 10:22 PM
vsg914 :bump:
@realred914, what is your budget?
you kn... Nov 16 2010, 06:09 AM

draganc @realred914, what is your budget?
you know that ... Nov 16 2010, 07:55 PM
tradisrad
@realred914, what is your budget?
you know that... Nov 16 2010, 08:31 AM
realred914
@realred914, what is your budget?
you know that... Nov 16 2010, 01:01 PM
Jake Raby To those who are seriously dedicated its about muc... Nov 16 2010, 07:49 AM
Jake Raby And the 914 is still more of a budget minded vehic... Nov 16 2010, 08:12 PM
realred914 my engien should be near 2 grand parts and labour.... Nov 17 2010, 10:16 AM
vsg914 Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, including... Nov 17 2010, 10:51 AM
tradisrad
Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, includin... Nov 17 2010, 11:15 AM
draganc
Draganc, 2500 bucks includes everything, includin... Nov 18 2010, 09:01 PM
vsg914 J[quote name='draganc' date='Nov 18 20... Nov 19 2010, 06:18 AM
Cap'n Krusty Considering the fact that 914 cylinder head recond... Nov 17 2010, 01:37 PM
Bleyseng
Considering the fact that 914 cylinder head recon... Nov 18 2010, 04:50 AM
john rogers There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I think,... Nov 17 2010, 04:00 PM
Root_Werks
There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I think... Nov 17 2010, 04:47 PM
realred914
There is a shop in the Venice Beach area, I thin... Nov 18 2010, 12:11 PM
stugray vsg914,
"Will i tell you where i get them? S... Nov 17 2010, 05:18 PM
vsg914 Stu,if i share my source with the world, i would n... Nov 18 2010, 06:41 AM
realred914 If folks wont share data, please post elsewhere, s... Nov 18 2010, 12:19 PM
rdauenhauer Im confused, you ask for detailed information yet ... Nov 18 2010, 04:00 PM
realred914
Im confused, you ask for detailed information yet... Nov 18 2010, 04:30 PM
HAM Inc Here's the info you need for the internals fro... Nov 18 2010, 04:38 PM
realred914
Here's the info you need for the internals fr... Nov 18 2010, 06:24 PM
realred914 ps my under standing of the 911 swivil feet is tha... Nov 18 2010, 06:28 PM
HAM Inc
The 911 swivel screws eliminate the friction loa... Nov 19 2010, 09:09 AM
realred914
The 911 swivel screws eliminate the friction lo... Nov 19 2010, 12:26 PM
Bleyseng Good luck finding out that data as a few years ago... Nov 20 2010, 05:30 AM
HAM Inc
I understand the desire to scrutinize the cam sp... Nov 20 2010, 10:27 AM
realred914
I understand the desire to scrutinze the cam sp... Nov 20 2010, 10:35 AM
Jake Raby
I understand the desire to scrutinze the cam s... Nov 22 2010, 08:10 PM![]() ![]() |
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