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| slu234 |
 Dec 29 2010, 09:41 PM
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This is my barn car that has been sitting for 30 years. It is a 1970 1.7L stock D-jet FI. I pulled the engine and also the FI wiring harness to freshen up some sheathing and a few terminals. Here's the list of FI and ignition repairs/replacements done. Engine back in last month and still sorting a few things out...
The engine did run (rather poorly though) before all of the following. -New plugs, wires, points, condenser, rotor and cap. -New blue coil -New fuel pump and hoses -Added fuel pressure gauge in line. -Fuel pressure at 30psi - jumpered fuel pump at relay to set -New vacuum hoses -Verified all ECU connections using Bowlsby's checklist on his site (although had no help to verify both trigger points operation while cranking - not cranking, had one side open and one side closed) -Fuel injectors were sent out about a year ago for cleaning - were put back in and run but have been sitting since then (possibly clogged??) -New vacuum advance/retard canister -Static timing done and points gap set for initial start up. The engine will turn over easily by the starter and will run for a short burst on starting fluid. I do not hear the "brrrrrrr" or "clicks" of the FI's clicking as the throttle is opened (i did verify that the TPS is connected and working while going over Bowlsby's checklist). Are my FI's stuck or clogged, ECU dead, what else?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Where next? I am so close to getting this thing on the road after about 2 years of sorting things out. I would greatly appreciate any direction. Thanks guys! Brian |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 30 2010, 09:54 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Wait a minute, guys. He has fuel pressure. That means the pump and hoses are installed correctly. Gotta read the whole thing .........................
The Cap'n |
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| jasons |
Dec 30 2010, 10:54 AM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,011 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Dec 30 2010, 08:54 AM)  Wait a minute, guys. He has fuel pressure. That means the pump and hoses are installed correctly. Gotta read the whole thing ......................... The Cap'n From what I've read, he has fuel pressure when the relay is jumpered. Do you have fuel pressure with the relay plugged in, while cranking the motor? Thats why I asked if you tried to start it with the relay jumpered. If you have fuel pressure while cranking, or it doesn't fire with the fuel pump relay jumpered, start looking at the injectors and their trigger circuit. |
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| Cap'n Krusty |
Dec 30 2010, 01:29 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(jasons @ Dec 30 2010, 08:54 AM) QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Dec 30 2010, 08:54 AM) Wait a minute, guys. He has fuel pressure. That means the pump and hoses are installed correctly. Gotta read the whole thing ......................... The Cap'n From what I've read, he has fuel pressure when the relay is jumpered. Do you have fuel pressure with the relay plugged in, while cranking the motor? Thats why I asked if you tried to start it with the relay jumpered. If you have fuel pressure while cranking, or it doesn't fire with the fuel pump relay jumpered, start looking at the injectors and their trigger circuit. Careful reading of the thread reveals this comment: "- the fuel pump does run for 1-2 seconds when the key is turned." I read that as the fuel pump, AND the relays work. The Cap'n |
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| jasons |
Dec 30 2010, 01:57 PM
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Jackstand Extraordinaire Group: Members Posts: 2,011 Joined: 19-August 04 From: Scottsdale, AZ Member No.: 2,573 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Dec 30 2010, 12:29 PM) Careful reading of the thread reveals this comment: "- the fuel pump does run for 1-2 seconds when the key is turned." I read that as the fuel pump, AND the relays work. The Cap'n Good point. I defer to you because you are the man. WWKD (What would Krusty do?) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif) |
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slu234 Djet - No start Dec 29 2010, 09:41 PM
jasons Have you tried starting it with the fuel pump rela... Dec 29 2010, 09:47 PM detoxcowboy I would check your actually getting fuel to the in... Dec 29 2010, 10:01 PM
slu234
I would check your actually getting fuel to the i... Dec 29 2010, 11:14 PM swl
Will probably need to pull the injectors and cran... Dec 30 2010, 07:05 AM Jeffs9146 Fuel pump! Dec 29 2010, 10:08 PM hot_shoe914 If the fuel pump is working go for the relays. I h... Dec 29 2010, 10:16 PM type47 When you re-installed the motor, did you connect t... Dec 30 2010, 08:31 AM brant
When you re-installed the motor, did you connect ... Dec 30 2010, 09:01 AM r_towle
When you re-installed the motor, did you connect... Dec 30 2010, 09:32 AM detoxcowboy Quote"Will probably need to pull the injector... Dec 30 2010, 09:05 AM slu234
Wait a minute, guys. He has fuel pressure. That... Dec 30 2010, 10:26 AM r_towle
Wait a minute, guys. He has fuel pressure. That... Dec 30 2010, 04:22 PM slu234 Was not able to find a noid light locally. I know... Dec 30 2010, 10:33 AM Cap'n Krusty HF sells noid lights. Gotta buy a set, but they... Dec 30 2010, 10:40 AM jk76.914 trigger points in distributor? Dec 30 2010, 11:09 AM underthetire Sounds like yor fuel pump is ok, since you have pr... Dec 30 2010, 11:23 AM sfrenck I'll throw in the good old "timing is off... Dec 30 2010, 12:03 PM brenz
I'll throw in the good old "timing is of... Dec 30 2010, 02:46 PM pt_700 i've been reading this with great interest as ... Dec 30 2010, 01:59 PM slu234 Update......
I built a noid light out of two pre-... Dec 31 2010, 12:35 AM swl Easiest way is to pull out the distributor and jus... Dec 31 2010, 10:37 AM slu234 Well.....The distributor was correct so I pulled t... Jan 1 2011, 12:12 AM brenz
Well.....The distributor was correct so I pulled ... Jan 1 2011, 11:35 PM benalishhero Bryan, I unclog mine on the bench with a 3.0 volt ... Jan 2 2011, 07:13 AM slu234
Bryan, I unclog mine on the bench with a 3.0 volt... Jan 2 2011, 05:58 PM brenz
Bryan, I unclog mine on the bench with a 3.0 vol... Jan 2 2011, 08:39 PM |
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