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> EP, anyone?
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post Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
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So, there are some big changes coming in E-production (SCCA) to "equalize" the competition. In 2005, the 914-4 2.0L runs at 1870 pounds with driver.

Is anyone thinking of switching from FP to EP and using a 2.0L now that the 914 has lost 50 pounds?

As you may have guessed, I'm considering it. Since I have 2-2.0L engines and no 1.8s, I'll be starting in EP anyway. But, I'm on the 4-year plan to get competitive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) , so it really doesn't matter immediately.

I know they used to be competitive in EP.

Anyway, there have been some posts about the horsepower a FP 1.8 can make. Any thoughts on a 2.0L?
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Yeah I was planning on running a Honda rod journal on the GT3 2.0 engine. I really want a shorter rod. I am thinking about running a 1.8 crank with a 96mm cylinder. (yes I know it is not legal) It will P&G smaller than a two litre so I shouldn't get an grief. Besides no way will a T4 powered 914 make it to the run offs and win. SCCA won't let it and the engine can't make competetive HP.

I'll not argue that Porsche/VW went overboard on the connecting rods. Damn 800 grams, what are we running here a 30psi blown motor? Oh yeah, I forgot they should have had the same engineer that designed the rods design the heads, maybe they would be worth a shit.

Honda invested a ton of money into the bearing design for the B18C1 engine, if you can design the crank to run that bearing. Check out this article:

http://dwolsten.tripod.com/articles/sep93a.html

Amazing what a few dedicated engineers can do.
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groot   EP, anyone?   Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
Jake Raby   I have actually made more power with teh FP spec e...   Apr 6 2004, 06:52 PM
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Brett W   I don't get the problem with the weakness of t...   Apr 6 2004, 08:59 PM
Jake Raby   I have seen MANY more spun bearing 2.0 engines tha...   Apr 6 2004, 09:20 PM
Brett W   Yeah I was planning on running a Honda rod journal...   Apr 6 2004, 10:47 PM
Jake Raby   Thats one of the bearings that I plan on running. ...   Apr 6 2004, 11:08 PM
campbellcj   Yikes, that's a wild class weight -- under 170...   Apr 6 2004, 11:13 PM
Brett W   Yeah the key to better engines is to use better te...   Apr 6 2004, 11:14 PM
Jake Raby   Once the rods are completed the lengthys are easy ...   Apr 7 2004, 12:03 AM
Brad Roberts   Kevin, I can think of 8-10 people who have done d...   Apr 7 2004, 12:58 AM
Brett W   Jake, I agree some engine will like a longer or sh...   Apr 7 2004, 02:42 AM
groot   Good feedback. Thanks. I will be running a 2.0L-4...   Apr 7 2004, 06:31 AM
Jake Raby   FYI, I'd be willing to cover alot of the R&D i...   Apr 7 2004, 07:48 AM
Brett W   Jake be careful about spreading yourself to thin. ...   Apr 7 2004, 10:51 AM
Jake Raby   Brett, Thanks for the concern.. Thats the whole r...   Apr 7 2004, 11:04 AM
Brett W   I agree, if I am not working I am wasting my life....   Apr 7 2004, 12:55 PM
Brad Roberts   Good thing the 3 of us dont live close together. I...   Apr 7 2004, 02:12 PM
groot   I'm up for it, no question!!! I...   Apr 7 2004, 06:23 PM
Jake Raby   Groot, That time line sounds perfect. PM me your n...   Apr 7 2004, 07:36 PM
Thorshammer   EP HUH?, 2.0 liter you say. T IV you think?. Last...   Apr 7 2004, 08:50 PM
Jake Raby   ...   Apr 7 2004, 10:06 PM
dinomium   I have a 73 road car and dream of racing it! I...   Apr 7 2004, 11:17 PM
Racer Chris   If given enough outside funding I would convert to...   Apr 8 2004, 05:16 AM
groot   Lots of great input!! Chris-I thought thi...   Apr 8 2004, 06:25 AM
synthesisdv   ...   Apr 8 2004, 07:00 AM
Bleyseng   Maybe we can convince the Fordahl's as they ha...   Apr 8 2004, 07:29 AM
Brett W   210 is do able but it will be very hard in Product...   Apr 8 2004, 07:42 AM
Thorshammer   I believe in what Jake says, Although I have never...   Apr 8 2004, 09:06 AM
groot   All very valid points. Thanks. I've been runn...   Apr 8 2004, 10:23 AM
Dave_Darling     Apr 8 2004, 07:11 PM
Thorshammer   HA! Just fond my conversation notes with Mike...   Apr 8 2004, 07:19 PM
Brett W   Yes Finch and I have talked on occasion and he has...   Apr 8 2004, 08:38 PM
Racer Chris     Apr 10 2004, 02:35 AM
Jake Raby   In the last few years alot of new things have been...   Apr 10 2004, 11:39 AM
groot   Somewhere buried in this thread someone asked abou...   Aug 16 2004, 02:34 PM
Jake Raby   We are smack dab in the middle of the engine build...   Aug 16 2004, 02:41 PM
groot   Jake, I'll be at my desk tomorrow. Give me a ...   Aug 16 2004, 06:06 PM
Jake Raby   Kevin, It is stock diameter.... Its is legal in ...   Aug 16 2004, 07:18 PM
Brad Roberts   Ha ha.. they only tear down the top 3 finishers (l...   Aug 16 2004, 07:53 PM
seanery   dont they do a randtom car from the top 10, too?   Aug 16 2004, 08:05 PM
groot   Stock diameter? Sweet, let's do it! Jake,...   Aug 17 2004, 06:19 AM


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