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> Real "race" tires vrs. "DOT" race/auto-x tires??
Mueller
post Apr 6 2004, 11:41 AM
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as copied from the GGR rules book:

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Tires:

i. Street tires: Any street tire/wheel combination may be used. Tires   must be DOT approved.

ii. Race Tires: Race tires may be used, but may not be mounted on wheels wider than seven (7) inches or one inch wider than stock, whichever is greater. This leaves open the possibility of cars being competitive on very large street tires.


given the choice, what would be better and more cost effective??

wide street tire/wheel
or
7" wide rim with race tire

are there DOT tires "close" to being a race tire???
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post Apr 7 2004, 06:59 PM
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Hoosier rain tires were not DOT certified as the tread was hand cut!

I agree that decent street tires are a very good starting point for autocross. Especially if they don't have a bunch of tread. Ask me about auto crossing a Mercury Grand Marquis rental if you want to know about tearing tread off the outside of a tire. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol2.gif)

Street tires that have decent recovery can teach one a lot about car control. With sticky tires you can end up going so fast that if you make a mistake you pay for it right then and there and the opportunity for learning is gone or greatly diminished. This is why skid control is taught on slick surfaces. Things happen more slowly and you have time to learn the proper behavior.

Kumho Victoracers are quite sturdy for an R compound tire. Once you are ready to move up from street tires I say start there. They work well on the car in my Avatar and that thing weighs >3200lbs with me on board.

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Mueller   Real "race" tires vrs. "DOT" race/auto-x tires??   Apr 6 2004, 11:41 AM
brant   let others chime in here.. but race tires defines ...   Apr 6 2004, 11:48 AM
itsa914   Are you running in SCCA if so what class? going to...   Apr 6 2004, 01:00 PM
Mueller   sorry, PCA only right now......for some of the loc...   Apr 6 2004, 01:08 PM
L8Apex   if it's DOT R compounds, then it's a "stre...   Apr 6 2004, 01:15 PM
Mueller   i was not sure if all they do is add a water chann...   Apr 6 2004, 01:16 PM
L8Apex   Oops, forgot to mention. I'd get some Hoosier...   Apr 6 2004, 01:17 PM
john rogers   I'd say run Goodyear cantilever slicks. They w...   Apr 6 2004, 01:35 PM
Demick   Mike There's really 3 levels: Street tires DO...   Apr 6 2004, 01:43 PM
Mueller   thanks Demick !!!!   Apr 6 2004, 02:05 PM
brant   As usual others have more clearly expressed than I...   Apr 6 2004, 02:23 PM
seanery   :agree: with Demick The first time I used a DOT-...   Apr 6 2004, 02:28 PM
Mueller   i drove my C2 on the street with Comp R1's for...   Apr 6 2004, 02:53 PM
URY914   Mike, I have offen debated the race slick vs. auto...   Apr 6 2004, 07:28 PM
J P Stein   The differences between "race tires" (slicks) and ...   Apr 6 2004, 08:57 PM
Mueller   thanks, Paul, JP and everyone else...it seems that...   Apr 7 2004, 10:53 AM
ss6   Check out Michelin's Pilot Sport Cup. Very po...   Apr 7 2004, 11:08 AM
Demick   Truthfully Mike, I'd encourage you to simply r...   Apr 7 2004, 11:55 AM
Mueller   Hey Demick... points well taken and not offended ...   Apr 7 2004, 12:42 PM
J P Stein   Demick makes a good point, but with the following ...   Apr 7 2004, 01:01 PM
Demick   It's really not any safer (a well run autox is...   Apr 7 2004, 01:14 PM
Scott Carlberg     Apr 7 2004, 01:20 PM
Demick   Hey Scott - when are we going to see you show up a...   Apr 7 2004, 01:33 PM
Scott Carlberg   I don't really care for autocrossing, I did it...   Apr 7 2004, 01:51 PM
Mueller   hey Scott, I too thought auto-x was basicly like ...   Apr 7 2004, 02:01 PM
ChrisReale   Mike, do you still have 4 lug wheels? If so you c...   Apr 7 2004, 05:11 PM
Mueller   thanks for the offer Chris...one little problem......   Apr 7 2004, 06:01 PM
1973914   Would definitely "steer" away from the Pilot Cup S...   Apr 7 2004, 06:13 PM
JoshuaSkinner   Hoosier rain tires were not DOT certified as the t...   Apr 7 2004, 06:59 PM
Bleyseng   Jump in to the Kuhmos, if you are going to learn h...   Apr 7 2004, 08:38 PM
airsix   Hey Mike. You've already autocrossed at least ...   Apr 8 2004, 12:28 AM


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