EP, anyone? Options

[groot]

So, there are some big changes coming in E-production (SCCA) to "equalize" the competition. In 2005, the 914-4 2.0L runs at 1870 pounds with driver.

Is anyone thinking of switching from FP to EP and using a 2.0L now that the 914 has lost 50 pounds?

As you may have guessed, I'm considering it. Since I have 2-2.0L engines and no 1.8s, I'll be starting in EP anyway. But, I'm on the 4-year plan to get competitive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) , so it really doesn't matter immediately.

I know they used to be competitive in EP.

Anyway, there have been some posts about the horsepower a FP 1.8 can make. Any thoughts on a 2.0L?

[Thorshammer]

EP HUH?, 2.0 liter you say. T IV you think?.

Last guy that I am aware of actually running a 914 2.0 in SCCA was Michael Cyphert, but it was a GT-3 Car. Back in the good old days (ahem) of SCCA GT-3 was about as restricted as Prod is these days.

I'll take a shot at this being an EP competitor now for 2 years and building a couple cars in the past.

Best Cyphert could manage from a 2.0 was 194 Hp, now who knows on what dyno ........ TA DA? Anyway, I know some FP guys are somewhere about 180, maybe a touch more on a really good one, then again whos dyno? but say you can get 200, 9.2-9.4 LBS/Hp is where the Miata is, so is the RX7, so what is the real problem here.

Read the spec line 42mm Intake, 36 Exhaust, stock valve sizes, can be done, FP has less, but not much, 38MM chokes and 40MM carbs, should be peaky???. You certainly can make enough power at 1850 to be competitive, but the brakes are an issue and the transmission will not shift as quickly as needed, you will have to go to a hewland or have someone stuff some gearshafts into your 901/914 trans. Same track (wheel) as an FP car. But are you willing to spend the dough to get there, or just race. Most front running guys have big dollar shocks, and big dollar this and data system, this is what you must be prepared to do.

At least the chassis is not a mystery, I can think of three to four very competent chassis guys that can build a car to compete. Again I must emphasize at what level are you planning to race?

Next Issue, To make the power necessary, the motor will probably be peaky like I said before. With the Limited Prep philosopy in place. it can be tough to race with them, you can be off cam when they are not, and once the extra power you have/ or really the lower LBS/hp you have comes into play, its time to brake oh so sorry, brakes too small to haul small car down, and you can't change them.

Enough with the gloom and doom or shock and awe, haha LOL. This could be an excellent Platform, but others make a very valid point, are you ready for a little development work? I may be also depending on the 6 cylinder I have choosen for EP. If I ever get it done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif)

Good luck,

Erik Madsen

Post script: If you need any chassis info, I would be glad to pass some along in a private message.