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> Transmission problem with 2nd/4th gear selection, why does this happen right before a track day!!!!
racerx9146
post Apr 18 2011, 09:32 PM
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Hello, I could use a little input on this one.

So less than 11 days to a non-refundable track day at Thunderhill and my tranny won't go into 2nd or 4th. I have disconnected the linkage and cannot engage 2nd or 4th manually. 1st, reverse, 3rd and 5th are fine. It's like there is not enough throw at the side shifter input dongle. It also seems to require a lot of throw to get 3rd/5th engaged to the point that the ball is starting to pull the bushing out of the socket.

Its a 914-6 transmission rebuilt and converted to side shifter by a local Porsche "specialist". About 9 years ago. My tranny has never shifted right since the rebuild and I kept telling myself it was the linkage or something else. Now the problem has presented itself completely! 4th was always "soft" but now its not there at all and 2nd has joined the party. No grinding just no engagement. The car was in project stage for long after the work was done so it tough to try to bring it back to the specialist.

Got any ideas, Is there anything I can adjust with the tranny in the car or should I pull immediately and try to figure it out. I have rebuilt Porsche engines but always stayed out of the transmission world.

thanks Daron
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post Apr 19 2011, 08:05 AM
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Thanks for all the replies and the great picture. Much appreciated. I will pull the comb as soon as I get home from work today and post results. Dr. Evil your theory sounds promising (I hope) but would that not also affect 1st/reverse? Anyway its time to get extra greasy in a hurry.

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post Apr 19 2011, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(racerx9146 @ Apr 19 2011, 10:05 AM) *

Thanks for all the replies and the great picture. Much appreciated. I will pull the comb as soon as I get home from work today and post results. Dr. Evil your theory sounds promising (I hope) but would that not also affect 1st/reverse? Anyway its time to get extra greasy in a hurry.

Daron


My recommendation is purely based on the external cone screws, bushings, adjustments being correct, which you addressed in the first post.

Searching for simple/common failure items is the name of the game. External stuff is first and most common.

Then you get to the selector console which has two roll pins that can fail. Typically they are not spectacular failures, they are insidious like you describe; loss of gears in one direction.

Your question about 1/R is a valid one and when I think about it it does make sense.

1-3-5 are in the same plane and are not impossible to get to.

R-2-4 are in the same plane and 2 & 4 are the ones that are failing. Why not R? Well, R has no synchronization hardware to mess with. It is a straight gear being engaged with a straight gear. No real resistance like 2 and 4. So, it glides right in with little effort. The only resistance you feel is the spring detente.

If it is not the inner roll pin (I will be shocked), you are gonna get into multiple failure points as then you would need two separate bolts to come loose on two different shift rods, and then only shift so that only one way could be selected. Very improbable.
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racerx9146   Transmission problem with 2nd/4th gear selection   Apr 18 2011, 09:32 PM
PRS914-6   Hello, I could use a little input on this one. S...   Apr 18 2011, 09:44 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Uhhhh, you read his post? He even used the word ...   Apr 18 2011, 10:14 PM
PRS914-6   Uhhhh, you read his post? He even used the word ...   Apr 18 2011, 10:26 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Hello, I could use a little input on this one. S...   Apr 18 2011, 10:17 PM
racerx9146   many thanks for the replies. I went back out and...   Apr 18 2011, 11:04 PM
PRS914-6   Here is what you have in there......Sounds like it...   Apr 18 2011, 11:14 PM
Dr Evil   Here is what you have in there......Sounds like i...   Apr 19 2011, 09:59 PM
PRS914-6   Your pinion shaft bearing is on backwards ;) No...   Apr 20 2011, 12:14 AM
Dr Evil   [quote name='Dr Evil' post='1463010' date='Apr 19...   Apr 20 2011, 06:59 PM
ConeDodger   John, go steal Lafluer's differential while he...   Apr 19 2011, 12:35 AM
Dr Evil   DONT TEAR IT DOWN! There is a roll pin on th...   Apr 19 2011, 05:24 AM
pcar916   :agree: If that doesn't do it, you might hav...   Apr 19 2011, 05:30 AM
Dr Evil   Broken spring is not common, and would not cause t...   Apr 19 2011, 07:21 AM
racerx9146   Thanks for all the replies and the great picture. ...   Apr 19 2011, 08:05 AM
PRS914-6   Thanks for all the replies and the great picture....   Apr 19 2011, 08:21 AM
Dr Evil   Thanks for all the replies and the great picture....   Apr 19 2011, 11:10 AM
racerx9146   Just pulled the selector console (dongle) and the ...   Apr 19 2011, 06:37 PM
Dr Evil   Wont happen. Are you SURE that your external lin...   Apr 19 2011, 06:54 PM
laflaur   cheese and rice,aren't you done yet?   Apr 19 2011, 09:06 PM
racerx9146   So I pulled the gear cluster with the transmission...   Apr 19 2011, 11:04 PM
r_towle   So I pulled the gear cluster with the transmissio...   Apr 20 2011, 07:32 PM
yeahmag   That garage is nicer than my house...   Apr 19 2011, 11:50 PM
Dr Evil   Not being able to get it into gear manually at the...   Apr 20 2011, 06:57 PM
Dr Evil   From the pic he already removed 1st gear so that s...   Apr 20 2011, 07:42 PM


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