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| groot |
Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
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So, there are some big changes coming in E-production (SCCA) to "equalize" the competition. In 2005, the 914-4 2.0L runs at 1870 pounds with driver.
Is anyone thinking of switching from FP to EP and using a 2.0L now that the 914 has lost 50 pounds? As you may have guessed, I'm considering it. Since I have 2-2.0L engines and no 1.8s, I'll be starting in EP anyway. But, I'm on the 4-year plan to get competitive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) , so it really doesn't matter immediately. I know they used to be competitive in EP. Anyway, there have been some posts about the horsepower a FP 1.8 can make. Any thoughts on a 2.0L? |
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| Thorshammer |
Apr 8 2004, 09:06 AM
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I believe in what Jake says, Although I have never done any business with him (build my own) he has an excellent reputation and the shop is run like a business, while others are not. GT-3 is a waste of time for this car. The front running Toyotas all have T atlantic powerplants in them and make well over 255 hp. My info provided before was to indicate what the top guy I have ever known of, racing in SCCA with a 2.0 914 has done. Another good point is the nut in the left seat, how good is he? But the main point of this exercise still remains, can it be competitive and at what level and at what cost? That is truly the question. We all have science projects. Just realize this, spend your money on the stuff that really counts.
Tilton clutches, aluminum flywheels, gundrilled axles etc... are nice but they are the finishing touches not the developmental parts. Also don't forget to look at others peoples cars (if they will let you). Ron Wickers car in CA is very fast, so is Bontempis (FP) Bob Kirby, but he usually won't let you photograph. Chris Foley in New England. Each car has some really interesting things done to it depending on what the perceived problem is. I hope he does not get pissed but Wickers car has this aluminum tray that seals the carbs from the engine heat, now they always get fresh air from the grill, this is a great idea. Probably gets the cooling air from the front headlight like many race 914's. Sorry Ron! Things like this will make a difference, One passage wich I would like to key in is about air boxes, The GCR states: "Air cleaners,Velocity stacks and air supply ducts and boxes are unrestricted provided no modification of the body or chassis of the car is required to accomodate their use". Now I know this would draw a protest, but, can you picture a formula 5000 style scoop right in the rear window opening on an open car. Unrestricted you say? No modification to the bodywork, HMMM have the air go right through the engine grill, no mods here. Now I am sure someone will type in: The GCR also says "Modifications shall not be made unless specifically authorized herein", Ahh grasshopper, but it does say it is okay. Something to think about, but you will get protested. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) Good luck with this, and Jake I love the drive you got. Erik |
groot EP, anyone? Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
Jake Raby I have actually made more power with teh FP spec e... Apr 6 2004, 06:52 PM
d914
Brett W I don't get the problem with the weakness of t... Apr 6 2004, 08:59 PM
Jake Raby I have seen MANY more spun bearing 2.0 engines tha... Apr 6 2004, 09:20 PM
Brett W Yeah I was planning on running a Honda rod journal... Apr 6 2004, 10:47 PM
Jake Raby Thats one of the bearings that I plan on running. ... Apr 6 2004, 11:08 PM
campbellcj Yikes, that's a wild class weight -- under 170... Apr 6 2004, 11:13 PM
Brett W Yeah the key to better engines is to use better te... Apr 6 2004, 11:14 PM
Jake Raby Once the rods are completed the lengthys are easy ... Apr 7 2004, 12:03 AM
Brad Roberts Kevin,
I can think of 8-10 people who have done d... Apr 7 2004, 12:58 AM
Brett W Jake, I agree some engine will like a longer or sh... Apr 7 2004, 02:42 AM
groot Good feedback. Thanks.
I will be running a 2.0L-4... Apr 7 2004, 06:31 AM
Jake Raby FYI,
I'd be willing to cover alot of the R&D i... Apr 7 2004, 07:48 AM
Brett W Jake be careful about spreading yourself to thin. ... Apr 7 2004, 10:51 AM
Jake Raby Brett,
Thanks for the concern..
Thats the whole r... Apr 7 2004, 11:04 AM
Brett W I agree, if I am not working I am wasting my life.... Apr 7 2004, 12:55 PM
Brad Roberts Good thing the 3 of us dont live close together. I... Apr 7 2004, 02:12 PM
groot I'm up for it, no question!!!
I... Apr 7 2004, 06:23 PM
Jake Raby Groot,
That time line sounds perfect. PM me your n... Apr 7 2004, 07:36 PM
Thorshammer EP HUH?, 2.0 liter you say. T IV you think?.
Last... Apr 7 2004, 08:50 PM
Jake Raby ... Apr 7 2004, 10:06 PM
dinomium I have a 73 road car and dream of racing it! I... Apr 7 2004, 11:17 PM
Racer Chris If given enough outside funding I would convert to... Apr 8 2004, 05:16 AM
groot Lots of great input!!
Chris-I thought thi... Apr 8 2004, 06:25 AM
synthesisdv ... Apr 8 2004, 07:00 AM
Bleyseng Maybe we can convince the Fordahl's as they ha... Apr 8 2004, 07:29 AM
Brett W 210 is do able but it will be very hard in Product... Apr 8 2004, 07:42 AM
groot All very valid points. Thanks.
I've been runn... Apr 8 2004, 10:23 AM
Dave_Darling
Thorshammer HA!
Just fond my conversation notes with Mike... Apr 8 2004, 07:19 PM
Brett W Yes Finch and I have talked on occasion and he has... Apr 8 2004, 08:38 PM
Racer Chris
Jake Raby In the last few years alot of new things have been... Apr 10 2004, 11:39 AM
groot Somewhere buried in this thread someone asked abou... Aug 16 2004, 02:34 PM
Jake Raby We are smack dab in the middle of the engine build... Aug 16 2004, 02:41 PM
groot Jake,
I'll be at my desk tomorrow. Give me a ... Aug 16 2004, 06:06 PM
Jake Raby Kevin, It is stock diameter....
Its is legal in ... Aug 16 2004, 07:18 PM
Brad Roberts Ha ha.. they only tear down the top 3 finishers (l... Aug 16 2004, 07:53 PM
seanery dont they do a randtom car from the top 10, too? Aug 16 2004, 08:05 PM
groot Stock diameter? Sweet, let's do it!
Jake,... Aug 17 2004, 06:19 AM![]() ![]() |
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