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| groot |
Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
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So, there are some big changes coming in E-production (SCCA) to "equalize" the competition. In 2005, the 914-4 2.0L runs at 1870 pounds with driver.
Is anyone thinking of switching from FP to EP and using a 2.0L now that the 914 has lost 50 pounds? As you may have guessed, I'm considering it. Since I have 2-2.0L engines and no 1.8s, I'll be starting in EP anyway. But, I'm on the 4-year plan to get competitive (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_flagge24.gif) , so it really doesn't matter immediately. I know they used to be competitive in EP. Anyway, there have been some posts about the horsepower a FP 1.8 can make. Any thoughts on a 2.0L? |
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Apr 8 2004, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(Thorshammer @ Apr 8 2004, 07:06 AM) ... Wickers car has this aluminum tray that seals the carbs from the engine heat, now they always get fresh air from the grill, this is a great idea. Probably gets the cooling air from the front headlight like many race 914's. Yes, it has that tray. I also thought it was a neat idea! The cooling air is ducted from the headlight buckets, which is legal. I believe the cooling impeller has very few if any blades on it. (See the earlier post about that--reduces the amount of power you need to push the air....) I think he may be using Dells instead of Webers, which fits in with what I have read on the Shoptalk Forums about Dells flowing more air than Webers. He's also got lots of data acquisition stuff--very trick!! Bontempi's yellow car is similar in many ways, but has lots of detail differences that I have seen. No tray, less data acq... And I'm sure a whole lot of other differences that I didn't notice!! Chuck Forge is another local EP stalwart. He's a good guy to talk to, but I haven't seen much in the way of details inside his car. (Hmm, that's not a bad way of distracting people from checking your car too closely, is it?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) I've talked to him about the "sewer pipe" cooling--I think he's only using one headlight bucket for the main cooling air, and the other is used for an oil cooler?? I forget. He has half or two-thirds of the blades gone from his fan, not all of them like Rich has (or had at one point). "I ran with a full fan once, just to see. It felt like I was dragging a parachute around with me!" We also talked brakes; I believe 914-6 front brakes are allowed now, but he told me that he wasn't bothering to switch because he had gotten the stockers working to the point where vented rotors would offer no improvement! BTW, you couldn't see his rotor at all for all the ducting around it... And the caliper also had ducting leading to it. You can learn an awful lot by simply hanging around with people and talking to them!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ...Oh, and my understanding is that the EP guys routinely run away from the GT3 Sixes (or whichever GT class requires the 2.0 Six motor) due mostly to the weight minimums. --DD |
groot EP, anyone? Apr 6 2004, 03:36 PM
Jake Raby I have actually made more power with teh FP spec e... Apr 6 2004, 06:52 PM
d914
Brett W I don't get the problem with the weakness of t... Apr 6 2004, 08:59 PM
Jake Raby I have seen MANY more spun bearing 2.0 engines tha... Apr 6 2004, 09:20 PM
Brett W Yeah I was planning on running a Honda rod journal... Apr 6 2004, 10:47 PM
Jake Raby Thats one of the bearings that I plan on running. ... Apr 6 2004, 11:08 PM
campbellcj Yikes, that's a wild class weight -- under 170... Apr 6 2004, 11:13 PM
Brett W Yeah the key to better engines is to use better te... Apr 6 2004, 11:14 PM
Jake Raby Once the rods are completed the lengthys are easy ... Apr 7 2004, 12:03 AM
Brad Roberts Kevin,
I can think of 8-10 people who have done d... Apr 7 2004, 12:58 AM
Brett W Jake, I agree some engine will like a longer or sh... Apr 7 2004, 02:42 AM
groot Good feedback. Thanks.
I will be running a 2.0L-4... Apr 7 2004, 06:31 AM
Jake Raby FYI,
I'd be willing to cover alot of the R&D i... Apr 7 2004, 07:48 AM
Brett W Jake be careful about spreading yourself to thin. ... Apr 7 2004, 10:51 AM
Jake Raby Brett,
Thanks for the concern..
Thats the whole r... Apr 7 2004, 11:04 AM
Brett W I agree, if I am not working I am wasting my life.... Apr 7 2004, 12:55 PM
Brad Roberts Good thing the 3 of us dont live close together. I... Apr 7 2004, 02:12 PM
groot I'm up for it, no question!!!
I... Apr 7 2004, 06:23 PM
Jake Raby Groot,
That time line sounds perfect. PM me your n... Apr 7 2004, 07:36 PM
Thorshammer EP HUH?, 2.0 liter you say. T IV you think?.
Last... Apr 7 2004, 08:50 PM
Jake Raby ... Apr 7 2004, 10:06 PM
dinomium I have a 73 road car and dream of racing it! I... Apr 7 2004, 11:17 PM
Racer Chris If given enough outside funding I would convert to... Apr 8 2004, 05:16 AM
groot Lots of great input!!
Chris-I thought thi... Apr 8 2004, 06:25 AM
synthesisdv ... Apr 8 2004, 07:00 AM
Bleyseng Maybe we can convince the Fordahl's as they ha... Apr 8 2004, 07:29 AM
Brett W 210 is do able but it will be very hard in Product... Apr 8 2004, 07:42 AM
Thorshammer I believe in what Jake says, Although I have never... Apr 8 2004, 09:06 AM
groot All very valid points. Thanks.
I've been runn... Apr 8 2004, 10:23 AM
Dave_Darling
Thorshammer HA!
Just fond my conversation notes with Mike... Apr 8 2004, 07:19 PM
Brett W Yes Finch and I have talked on occasion and he has... Apr 8 2004, 08:38 PM
Racer Chris
Jake Raby In the last few years alot of new things have been... Apr 10 2004, 11:39 AM
groot Somewhere buried in this thread someone asked abou... Aug 16 2004, 02:34 PM
Jake Raby We are smack dab in the middle of the engine build... Aug 16 2004, 02:41 PM
groot Jake,
I'll be at my desk tomorrow. Give me a ... Aug 16 2004, 06:06 PM
Jake Raby Kevin, It is stock diameter....
Its is legal in ... Aug 16 2004, 07:18 PM
Brad Roberts Ha ha.. they only tear down the top 3 finishers (l... Aug 16 2004, 07:53 PM
seanery dont they do a randtom car from the top 10, too? Aug 16 2004, 08:05 PM
groot Stock diameter? Sweet, let's do it!
Jake,... Aug 17 2004, 06:19 AM![]() ![]() |
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