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> Heater Blower Motor Mounting, Mine seems to be constant ground due to mounting...
ptravnic
post Apr 27 2011, 03:05 PM
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Hi all,

I have a 72 which does not have the nice U shaped blower motor mount in the engine compartment that the later years have. I'm operating under the impression that this bracket is the early stock mount for the motor assembly:
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However, since the ground is supposed to be intermittent (actuates when the red cockpit lever is pulled up all the way) I have the problem where, because the above pictured mount grounds the entire assembly, I'm always grounded causing the blower to start up as soon as I turn on the ignition.

I've tested my ground/red lever as the actuator when the motor assembly is not mounted (thus not automatically grounded) and it works like its supposed to - lever goes up and the motor turns on.

Is there a way to separate the actual motor from the assembly so that it is not grounded when mounted? Maybe the rubber piece in the first pic goes somewhere that I'm obviously missing?
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Is there another way to mount the motor assembly that I just don't know of? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif)

Thanks in advance!
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ps - cross posted from the Club site. I'm staying out of the turf wars b/c I like folks on both boards... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grouphug.gif)
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post Apr 28 2011, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(ptravnic @ Apr 27 2011, 02:05 PM) *

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However, since the ground is supposed to be intermittent (actuates when the red cockpit lever is pulled up all the way) I have the problem where, because the above pictured mount grounds the entire assembly, I'm always grounded causing the blower to start up as soon as I turn on the ignition.

I've tested my ground/red lever as the actuator when the motor assembly is not mounted (thus not automatically grounded) and it works like its supposed to - lever goes up and the motor turns on....


Your first assumption that the ground is supposed to switch the motor on is wrong. The ground from the heater switch goes to pin 9 of the front 14-pin connector on the relay board, which ends up at relay 54 pin 86. Pin 85 of the relay gets 12V from the key to power the relay whenever the ground from the switch arrives. The relay supplies +12V to the fan through the green wire to turn it on. The Brown wire from the fan motor goes directly to ground and should be grounded at all times. Relay #54 is the rearmost relay on the relay board.

I've never had to isolate the motor housing from ground, in fact the diagram for a '71 shows the ground wire with a symbol that means the case itself is the ground, while the '73 diagram shows a wire going off the the ground point in front of the relay board.

Either your motor has a short, or someone has done something to your relay. Or you are confusing the Green wire with ground, which is Brown on these cars.
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ptravnic   Heater Blower Motor Mounting   Apr 27 2011, 03:05 PM
SirAndy   Never had an issues with that mount, motor and loc...   Apr 27 2011, 03:14 PM
ptravnic   Never had an issues with that mount, motor and lo...   Apr 27 2011, 03:23 PM
ptravnic   OK - so I think I have a workaround, although it d...   Apr 27 2011, 06:47 PM
Pat Garvey   OK - so I think I have a workaround, although it ...   Apr 27 2011, 07:18 PM
euro911   Hmmm :idea: ... is that why the fan on our '7...   Apr 27 2011, 11:15 PM
Mike914   ... However, since the ground is supposed to be i...   Apr 28 2011, 12:03 AM
Spoke   As Mike points out, the heater lever is a ground-b...   Apr 28 2011, 07:28 AM
ptravnic   Looks like I'll be running some tests after wo...   Apr 28 2011, 07:49 AM
luskesq   I agree with what Mike914 said. I have the same s...   Apr 28 2011, 09:50 AM
Tom   Could be that you have an early blower motor with ...   Apr 28 2011, 10:18 AM
ptravnic   Electricity is out in the garage so no chance to d...   Apr 28 2011, 08:14 PM
ptravnic   On my lunch break - I did a couple tests. It turns...   Apr 29 2011, 12:26 PM
SirAndy   Since I can't locate the proper wire coming ou...   Apr 29 2011, 12:57 PM
SirAndy   Pin 11, green wire, going to (65) which is the hea...   Apr 29 2011, 01:00 PM
ptravnic   Pin 11, green wire, going to (65) which is the he...   Apr 29 2011, 01:14 PM
SirAndy   I wonder what that jumper cable was intended for? ...   Apr 29 2011, 02:19 PM
SirAndy   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-747-1304...   Apr 29 2011, 02:28 PM
SirAndy   Do you have the green wire in your engine harness ...   Apr 29 2011, 02:24 PM
SirAndy   Since you have the jumper, that implies you have a...   Apr 29 2011, 02:26 PM
ptravnic   Oddly enough, I seem to have an early main harness...   Apr 29 2011, 03:00 PM
SirAndy   b/c it keeps falling out due to the jostling of th...   Apr 29 2011, 04:30 PM
ptravnic   b/c it keeps falling out due to the jostling of t...   Apr 29 2011, 06:29 PM


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