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| mrgjones |
May 11 2011, 09:57 AM
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Alright. There are a lot of products on the market that promise to remove rust and prevent it from coming back. From reading the threads it seems the opinions on this forum are as varied as the products themselves. This thread is about making a convincing argument... or a ludicrous allegation, which ever you find appropriate. Horror stories are welcome but please limit yourselves to the chemical rust abatement theme already established. For you slow starters, here is your motivation.
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| ArtechnikA |
May 11 2011, 11:29 AM
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rich herzog ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,390 Joined: 4-April 03 From: Salted Roads, PA Member No.: 513 Region Association: None |
For light rust, tin snips.
For heavy rust, plasma cutter. For extensive light rust, acid dip. 'rust conversion' is one thing, and the phosphoric acid stuff seems to be pretty good. The 'encapsulation' products are starting to scare me. They're based on the premise that the coating will -never- crack, that you missed not even a pinhole of coverage, and that you were able to fully coat both sides. And that if you can't see the rust, you can pretend it's not there... They're also hard to get off when other repair or modification is desired. You think we have rust problems? (We do...) But the 356 guys have been fighting it longer than we have - their steel was certainly no better, the factory corrosion treatment similarly nonexistent, and they had a 20-year head start. I don't believe any of the prominent 356 restoration guys use anything like an encapsulation product. |
| bigkensteele |
May 11 2011, 08:33 PM
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You think we have rust problems? (We do...) But the 356 guys have been fighting it longer than we have - their steel was certainly no better, the factory corrosion treatment similarly nonexistent, and they had a 20-year head start. I don't believe any of the prominent 356 restoration guys use anything like an encapsulation product. There is a shop here in Cinci that does high-end 356 restorations. They had a meet and greet for PCA. One car in his shop was a really sweet 356B coupe that was very nicely restored. The owner had brought it in because there were a couple of bubbles at the bottom of the hood down near the nose. It was an NOS hood that was put on when the car was restored. He showed us where he cut away the bracing on the back, and underneath was a mess. His theory was that it was stored standing on the nose end, possibly in an unheated environment, and that the condensation/moisture had no where to go. Now think about the inside of our longs, all of those areas that are two layers of steel and/or hollow. My guess is that there isn't a rust-free 914 in existence. I like this thread. |
mrgjones WhO's THE BEST May 11 2011, 09:57 AM
sww914 Rust Mort. May 11 2011, 10:12 AM
mrgjones
Rust Mort.
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mrgjones
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Rust bullet has a pretty con... May 11 2011, 10:24 AM
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Rust Bullet....NOT
Rust bullet has a pretty co... May 11 2011, 02:06 PM
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underthetire Loctite Extend. Been using it for years. But i agr... May 11 2011, 11:37 AM
dlestep ...I took my body down to metal and treated it wit... May 11 2011, 12:23 PM
ArtechnikA
I trust rust converter, like I trust the curing p... May 11 2011, 12:41 PM
enderw88 I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel fra... May 11 2011, 02:39 PM
Ductech
I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel fr... May 11 2011, 03:49 PM
enderw88
I used Eastwood Rust Encapsulator on the steel f... May 11 2011, 06:39 PM
Madswede I wonder if anyone has done a large-scale electrol... May 11 2011, 06:16 PM
mrgjones
I wonder if anyone has done a large-scale electro... May 11 2011, 07:36 PM
silver74insocal anyone have experience with naval jelly? :popcorn: May 11 2011, 06:26 PM
sean_v8_914 "WhO's THE BEST, rust remover/ encapsulat... May 11 2011, 09:26 PM
ewdysar
"WhO's THE BEST, rust remover/ encapsula... May 12 2011, 01:40 AM
mrgjones I've been kind of eying the por 15 products bu... May 11 2011, 09:58 PM
avidfanjpl Silver in Socal
Stay away forever from Naval Jell... May 12 2011, 01:17 AM
sean_v8_914 yup. I bumped it. Perry gives a good write up May 12 2011, 07:31 AM
mrgjones Just finished reading the other thread. There... May 12 2011, 08:48 AM
scotty b
Just finished reading the other thread. There... May 12 2011, 08:58 AM
kwales I think the electrolytic process is the way to go.... May 12 2011, 11:35 AM
Madswede
Per the hydrogen embrittlement concerns, do your ... May 12 2011, 12:39 PM
ArtechnikA OK as long as we're driving down this path - w... May 12 2011, 12:46 PM
zymurgist I've read good things about electrolysis on ol... May 12 2011, 01:14 PM
kwales When I went to get my trunk done at American Metal... May 12 2011, 05:29 PM
mrgjones
I've done electroless nickel plating on a l... May 12 2011, 06:48 PM
Madswede As a chemical engineer kinda looking to branch out... May 13 2011, 12:55 AM
dlestep ...too late now, buddy...I purchased the property,... May 13 2011, 10:03 AM
dlestep
...too late now, buddy...I purchased the property... May 14 2011, 07:29 AM
kwales One other thing with the electrolysis process is t... May 14 2011, 12:47 PM
mrgjones This has got me thinking how I can build a giant t... May 14 2011, 01:26 PM
kwales On the first try, I rusted a positive electrode st... May 14 2011, 04:52 PM
mrgjones
On the first try, I rusted a positive electrode s... May 18 2011, 09:25 AM
mrgjones
I've been using rebar welded into a grid for ... May 18 2011, 09:31 AM
rohar There's a couple of sponges, a 2" steel s... May 17 2011, 08:07 PM
rohar Ok, so I've had it running on 5 amps for about... May 17 2011, 09:18 PM
sean_v8_914 this thread has taken a very interesting turn.
roh... May 18 2011, 07:50 AM
rohar I took picks, I'll have them posted shortly. ... May 18 2011, 08:42 AM
sean_v8_914 maybe a pneumatic scaling gun would help May 18 2011, 08:59 AM
rohar It's not the crud, there's a bit of a curv... May 18 2011, 09:13 AM
rohar Before, I've seen much worse:
http://www.914w... May 18 2011, 09:41 AM
rohar I let it cook for 2 hours last time, that pulled a... May 18 2011, 11:08 AM
rohar Alright, I couldn't wait. I pulled everything... May 18 2011, 11:44 AM
dlestep ...I am really liking this...if you could be so ki... May 18 2011, 11:51 AM
rohar More pics to follow, putting it on for another coo... May 18 2011, 12:18 PM
rohar After cooking about 4 total hours. I have maybe 1... May 18 2011, 12:56 PM
kwales Actuallly, if you do it long enough, the black tur... May 18 2011, 08:43 PM
rohar I'm in good shape. I went with a bigger anode... May 18 2011, 08:57 PM![]() ![]() |
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