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| yeahmag |
 May 12 2011, 11:14 AM
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This was built using 80/20 hardware and a friend of mine on the mill:
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| yeahmag |
May 12 2011, 11:17 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,448 Joined: 18-April 05 From: Pasadena, CA Member No.: 3,946 Region Association: Southern California
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The bars are *exactly* the same length and indexed *exactly* the same. So all I should need to do is measure off the front and rear (L & R) and I will have a parallelogram very quickly.
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| Krank |
May 12 2011, 11:27 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 140 Joined: 11-October 09 From: Winnipeg, MB Member No.: 10,922 Region Association: Canada |
QUOTE(yeahmag @ May 12 2011, 12:17 PM)  The bars are *exactly* the same length and indexed *exactly* the same. So all I should need to do is measure off the front and rear (L & R) and I will have a parallelogram very quickly. I was never a huge fan or "string" alignments that I used to do in the 70s and I am still not a fan of them. Too many discrepancies. Wheel track must be 100% the same between front and rear axles to get an accurate toe in measurement/setting. If you were to start with a true toe in setting of 1/8" and then widen the front axle wheel track by 1.00" your string method of measurement now reads a different toe reading. This is just to show the change in toe that is possible. Don't get me wrong, this method may get you close but using jack stands as string anchors would probably work just as well. Seeing as you are measuring the distance from the string to the tire 9 0'clock, axle center, and 3 o'clock positions to obtain a parallel line on each side of the car and give you an idea of toe in/out. If all you wish to accomplish is proper toe setting, a "toe bar" scribe method would be more accurate. To be honest, I have never looked up the wheel track or steer axle set back specs of a 914 and it may be exactly the same and work fine but just so you are aware that there are many vehicle that are not the same. |
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| SirAndy |
May 13 2011, 12:05 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 42,207 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Krank @ May 12 2011, 10:27 PM) Wheel track must be 100% the same between front and rear axles to get an accurate toe in measurement/setting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I've probably done 100 of them by now and not once on a car that had the same track width front/rear. I don't see how that would have any impact at all? Confused ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) |
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| Richard Casto |
May 13 2011, 07:08 AM
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Blue Sky Motorsports, LLC Group: Members Posts: 1,465 Joined: 2-August 05 From: Durham, NC Member No.: 4,523 Region Association: South East States |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 13 2011, 02:05 AM) QUOTE(Krank @ May 12 2011, 10:27 PM) Wheel track must be 100% the same between front and rear axles to get an accurate toe in measurement/setting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) I've probably done 100 of them by now and not once on a car that had the same track width front/rear. I don't see how that would have any impact at all? Confused ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) You don't have to have same front/rear track width to set toe using string method. Richard |
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yeahmag DIY Strings Alignment Setup May 12 2011, 11:14 AM
yeahmag The sliders at the end are indexed every 5 mm
May 12 2011, 11:14 AM yeahmag I'm using string here just because it was hand... May 12 2011, 11:15 AM PeeGreen 914 :beer2: Nice, This is very similar to what you wou... May 12 2011, 11:33 AM yeahmag I know! That part is still killing me... May 12 2011, 11:38 AM URY914 Leave them on and use them for curb feelers. :D May 12 2011, 12:10 PM Andyrew String alignment works great for toe in/out, but I... May 12 2011, 03:08 PM
SirAndy I use 2 4x4's and a tape measure and a buddy..... May 12 2011, 10:55 PM Andyrew
I use 2 4x4's and a tape measure and a buddy.... May 13 2011, 12:58 AM Dave_Darling I just dont see how a string method will do the c... May 13 2011, 10:42 PM mrbubblehead
I just dont see how a string method will do the ... May 14 2011, 07:54 AM SirAndy As long as you get the strings referenced to the a... May 14 2011, 01:24 PM mrbubblehead
[quote name='mrbubblehead' post='1477507' date='M... May 14 2011, 08:34 PM SirAndy so the front track width is the same as the rear t... May 14 2011, 08:39 PM mrbubblehead
so the front track width is the same as the rear ... May 14 2011, 08:46 PM fasthonda
so the front track width is the same as the rear ... May 15 2011, 07:14 AM SirAndy You need to take the track width into consideratio... May 15 2011, 12:55 PM wobbletop
You need to take the track width into considerati... May 16 2011, 10:26 PM Bartlett 914
You need to take the track width into considerat... May 17 2011, 06:02 AM whatabout1 For camber just get on flat floor (doesn't nee... May 12 2011, 03:35 PM Eric_Shea
How much to do a second one? May 12 2011, 10:34 PM yeahmag I would guess at least $200 in parts - probab... May 13 2011, 12:05 AM yeahmag This system does replace jack stands - and yes tha... May 13 2011, 12:03 AM 914 shifter
This system does replace jack stands - and yes th... May 15 2011, 06:11 AM BK911 I use a setup very similar, but with electrical co... May 14 2011, 09:18 AM sww914 I've done hundreds of alignments with computer... May 14 2011, 10:56 AM zonedoubt ...and the distance between string attachment poin... May 14 2011, 02:40 PM sixnotfour ray scruggs wrote this booklet a million years ago... May 14 2011, 04:35 PM John Do what you will, but I will stick with my machine... May 14 2011, 08:41 PM sww914 No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the st... May 14 2011, 09:15 PM mrbubblehead
No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the s... May 14 2011, 09:41 PM SirAndy No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the st... May 15 2011, 12:33 AM sww914 Not if you measure the distance between the string... May 15 2011, 09:14 AM yeahmag That's where the indexed bars come in to play.... May 15 2011, 10:51 AM SirAndy I did the alignment yesterday and started with a s... May 15 2011, 12:58 PM mrbubblehead
I did the alignment yesterday and started with a ... May 15 2011, 03:14 PM SirAndy couldnt you just pop the steering wheel off and th... May 15 2011, 07:44 PM tradisrad how to string align from smart racing.
I am a lit... May 17 2011, 09:19 AM SirAndy Is he correct with his terminology?
Yes, he is cor... May 17 2011, 12:05 PM tradisrad
Is he correct with his terminology?
Yes, he is co... May 17 2011, 01:14 PM enderw88
how to string align from smart racing.
I am a li... May 17 2011, 03:23 PM yeahmag And here are some videos from yesterday's trip... May 17 2011, 10:22 AM yeahmag Remember it's the distance from the *outside* ... May 17 2011, 12:09 PM Rand
Remember it's the distance from the *outside*... May 17 2011, 01:39 PM karnak Good info here. i have done a string alignment and... Jun 15 2011, 08:37 PM yeahmag 1/16" to in in the rear. 1/8" or more to... Jun 15 2011, 08:43 PM mrbubblehead this is the website i used to string align my car ... Jun 15 2011, 08:44 PM dion9146
this is the website i used to string align my car... Jul 22 2011, 02:12 PM |
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