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| yeahmag |
May 12 2011, 11:14 AM
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May 14 2011, 10:56 AM
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I've done hundreds of alignments with computerized laser machines. About 80% of the time when I'd test drive the car the steering wheel would be crooked and I'd have to jack the car up and move the tie rods again to center the wheel. That's a bad sign. I've done a hundred alignments with strings and in 100% of the cases when I was certain that my measurements were perfect the steering wheel was straight when I test drove the car.
To set up the box around the car you measure to the hub of each wheel and make certain that the 2 front measurements are exactly the same and that the 2 rears are exactly the same and that the strings are perfectly parallel. If that's true and the car's suspension isn't bent you have a perfect box around the car to measure the toe. I also measure between the string and the chassis (not the body) of the car to make sure that my box that is parallel to the hubs is also parallel to the chassis. It does matter if the floor is level. It really matters. If you set the camber and the floor is 1 degree slanted to the side it will change all of your measurements by 1 degree. Let's say the car is sitting at a 1 degree angle and you want your front camber to be -1 degree. You set your camber 1 degree negative on both sides using gravity as a horizontal plane. Now you move the car to somewhere where it really is level and you have 0 camber on one side and -2 degrees camber on the other side. Front to rear level is a lot less important but side to side is critical because every bit of difference in the floor will translate exactly into suspension inaccuracies. You can shim the ca's wheels with thin pieces of plywood to get it sitting level. Before I had a rack for alignments I had 2' X 4' sheets of 1/4" & 1/8" plywood that I could put in the same places on my floor every time to level the car. 4 feet is long enough to have plenty of room to roll the car after you make adjustments so the suspension can settle again. I could get a vendor to roll an expensive computerized alignment machine into my shop on Monday but I don't want one. If you want perfect, strings are better. |
yeahmag DIY Strings Alignment Setup May 12 2011, 11:14 AM
yeahmag The sliders at the end are indexed every 5 mm
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yeahmag I'm using string here just because it was hand... May 12 2011, 11:15 AM
yeahmag The bars are *exactly* the same length and indexed... May 12 2011, 11:17 AM
Krank
The bars are *exactly* the same length and indexe... May 12 2011, 11:27 PM
SirAndy Wheel track must be 100% the same between front an... May 13 2011, 12:05 AM
Richard Casto
Wheel track must be 100% the same between front a... May 13 2011, 07:08 AM
PeeGreen 914 :beer2: Nice, This is very similar to what you wou... May 12 2011, 11:33 AM
yeahmag I know! That part is still killing me... May 12 2011, 11:38 AM
URY914 Leave them on and use them for curb feelers. :D May 12 2011, 12:10 PM
Andyrew String alignment works great for toe in/out, but I... May 12 2011, 03:08 PM
SirAndy I use 2 4x4's and a tape measure and a buddy..... May 12 2011, 10:55 PM
Andyrew
I use 2 4x4's and a tape measure and a buddy.... May 13 2011, 12:58 AM
Dave_Darling I just dont see how a string method will do the c... May 13 2011, 10:42 PM
mrbubblehead
I just dont see how a string method will do the ... May 14 2011, 07:54 AM
SirAndy As long as you get the strings referenced to the a... May 14 2011, 01:24 PM
mrbubblehead
[quote name='mrbubblehead' post='1477507' date='M... May 14 2011, 08:34 PM
SirAndy so the front track width is the same as the rear t... May 14 2011, 08:39 PM
mrbubblehead
so the front track width is the same as the rear ... May 14 2011, 08:46 PM
fasthonda
so the front track width is the same as the rear ... May 15 2011, 07:14 AM
SirAndy You need to take the track width into consideratio... May 15 2011, 12:55 PM
wobbletop
You need to take the track width into considerati... May 16 2011, 10:26 PM
Bartlett 914
You need to take the track width into considerat... May 17 2011, 06:02 AM
whatabout1 For camber just get on flat floor (doesn't nee... May 12 2011, 03:35 PM
Eric_Shea
How much to do a second one? May 12 2011, 10:34 PM
yeahmag I would guess at least $200 in parts - probab... May 13 2011, 12:05 AM
yeahmag This system does replace jack stands - and yes tha... May 13 2011, 12:03 AM
914 shifter
This system does replace jack stands - and yes th... May 15 2011, 06:11 AM
BK911 I use a setup very similar, but with electrical co... May 14 2011, 09:18 AM
zonedoubt ...and the distance between string attachment poin... May 14 2011, 02:40 PM
sixnotfour ray scruggs wrote this booklet a million years ago... May 14 2011, 04:35 PM
John Do what you will, but I will stick with my machine... May 14 2011, 08:41 PM
sww914 No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the st... May 14 2011, 09:15 PM
mrbubblehead
No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the s... May 14 2011, 09:41 PM
SirAndy No, it might be 6 1/2" in the front to the st... May 15 2011, 12:33 AM
sww914 Not if you measure the distance between the string... May 15 2011, 09:14 AM
yeahmag That's where the indexed bars come in to play.... May 15 2011, 10:51 AM
SirAndy I did the alignment yesterday and started with a s... May 15 2011, 12:58 PM
mrbubblehead
I did the alignment yesterday and started with a ... May 15 2011, 03:14 PM
SirAndy couldnt you just pop the steering wheel off and th... May 15 2011, 07:44 PM
tradisrad how to string align from smart racing.
I am a lit... May 17 2011, 09:19 AM
SirAndy Is he correct with his terminology?
Yes, he is cor... May 17 2011, 12:05 PM

tradisrad
Is he correct with his terminology?
Yes, he is co... May 17 2011, 01:14 PM
enderw88
how to string align from smart racing.
I am a li... May 17 2011, 03:23 PM
yeahmag And here are some videos from yesterday's trip... May 17 2011, 10:22 AM
yeahmag Remember it's the distance from the *outside* ... May 17 2011, 12:09 PM
Rand
Remember it's the distance from the *outside*... May 17 2011, 01:39 PM
karnak Good info here. i have done a string alignment and... Jun 15 2011, 08:37 PM
yeahmag 1/16" to in in the rear. 1/8" or more to... Jun 15 2011, 08:43 PM
mrbubblehead this is the website i used to string align my car ... Jun 15 2011, 08:44 PM
dion9146
this is the website i used to string align my car... Jul 22 2011, 02:12 PM![]() ![]() |
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