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| FlatSix |
May 21 2011, 08:13 AM
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Background:
Car is 1976, and has not been driven for many years (don't ask). The engine is now a 1.7 from 1970. I have replaced all hoses, fuel lines and fuel pump. Problem: The engine will start, run for a few minutes then stop however when the engine is running the fuel pressure is ZERO! Activating the fuel pump by pressing the relay in the engine compartment with my finger brings the fuel pressure up to 28psi and stalls the engine. The car will NOT then restart. When trying to restart I CANNOT always hear the fuel pump run. The fuel presure is 28psi though. Aim: To get the engine running as it should. |
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| FlatSix |
May 24 2011, 10:09 AM
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English Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 191 Joined: 14-January 03 From: Poole, England Member No.: 144 |
I've made some progress. I've taken apart and inspected wiring to ignition switch and main fuse box. This didn't show up anything notable to report.
I plugged in the fuel injection test box I purchased from James T. I went through the tests and everything checked out ok so I went to start the engine. The fuel pump ran and the car started as you would expect. The engine did not stall after a couple minutes unlike previously. I disconnected James' box and went to start the engine. NO fuel pump running for 2 seconds. Connected the test box back up - everything ok! Repeated exercise several times. I have now 'bent' the connectors on the white plastic strip in a little and that seems to have solved that issue. So I can now get the engine running. I'm not sure about the idling though. Have a look at the video. The revs oscillate between about 900 to 1800. Note the CHT sensor is new. When I use the test box to read the resistance of the CHT it is in line with what it should be (about 500 ohms, the engine isn't that warm yet). When I use the test box to substitue for the sensor and I 'dial in' about 500 ohms for the resistance then the engine idles smoothly at about 1200rpm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvRmkUeS024 |
FlatSix This can't be right? May 21 2011, 08:13 AM
trojanhorsepower Let me forward with " I don't know anythi... May 21 2011, 08:26 AM
Cap'n Krusty Right off the bat, where did you tap the fuel syst... May 21 2011, 08:28 AM
FlatSix I took a video to help explain better:
uCmqITLZS... May 21 2011, 08:30 AM
FlatSix Hmm... that didn't work as well as I hoped... May 21 2011, 08:34 AM
FlatSix I had the fuel injectors serviced.
The fuel press... May 21 2011, 08:36 AM
SLITS Doesn't sound quite right.
Where is your fuel... May 21 2011, 08:37 AM
FlatSix YouTube video here:
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scotty b http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...g+you... May 21 2011, 08:47 AM
FlatSix Here you go
uCmqITLZSrM May 21 2011, 08:55 AM
ConeDodger Pull your relay board and look for greenish crap c... May 21 2011, 09:04 AM
FlatSix I've just changed the relay board but the symp... May 21 2011, 09:29 AM
SLITS In your video, there are a couple of things:
1.) ... May 21 2011, 09:51 AM
ConeDodger Have you tried switching the relays around... May 21 2011, 10:32 AM
Root_Werks You're running off the cold start injector and... May 21 2011, 10:49 AM
FlatSix I have swapped the relays around - no difference.
... May 21 2011, 10:59 AM
70-914nut i had the exact problem. fuel lines we incorrectly... May 21 2011, 03:35 PM
mrgjones Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. The fact tha... May 21 2011, 04:02 PM
swl damn this is a weird one!
Lets go back to bas... May 22 2011, 07:01 AM
SLITS
damn this is a weird one!
Another weird (to ... May 22 2011, 07:36 AM
swl
There is a check valve in the pump that holds pre... May 22 2011, 08:01 AM
FlatSix I've taken the tank out and checked the fuel l... May 22 2011, 07:43 AM
SLITS
I've taken the tank out and checked the fuel ... May 22 2011, 08:07 AM
swl yup. pushing down the plate closes 30-87. pump s... May 22 2011, 07:47 AM
FlatSix I have a suspicion that two wrongs may make a righ... May 22 2011, 07:53 AM
swl
I have a suspicion that two wrongs may make a rig... May 22 2011, 08:10 AM
John What I believe that some were saying before about ... May 22 2011, 08:07 AM
SLITS
As far as the tank connections go, there are 2 co... May 22 2011, 08:14 AM
swl
Steve, if you have pulled the connections off th... May 22 2011, 08:29 AM
SLITS The fuel pumps used on these (and many other cars)... May 22 2011, 08:46 AM
swl so all the speculation aside the right thing to do... May 22 2011, 09:04 AM
SLITS Yep ....
I just don't remember which port the... May 22 2011, 09:11 AM
FlatSix The fuel fumes have got to me today, the informati... May 22 2011, 09:16 AM
SLITS Damn Andy ...
1.) Fuse on relay board .... is it... May 22 2011, 09:30 AM
Spoke Here's what the fuel lines on my 1.7L DJET loo... May 22 2011, 09:56 AM
swl You can only really debug it in the "won... May 22 2011, 10:13 AM
FlatSix Looking at Ron's list:
Fues on relay board - ... May 22 2011, 10:33 AM
ConeDodger
Looking at Ron's list:
Fues on relay board -... May 22 2011, 10:56 AM
swl
Fues on relay board - Isn't this 'downstr... May 23 2011, 06:23 AM
FlatSix That's the problem I now have - intermittent f... May 22 2011, 11:05 AM
SLITS Last question .... you said you replaced the fuel ... May 22 2011, 11:06 AM
McMark First things first.
Does the fuel pump run for 2 ... May 22 2011, 11:39 AM
FlatSix I did make the mistake of buying an 'OEM' ... May 22 2011, 11:47 AM
Spoke
1. Sometimes the fuel pump will run for 2 seconds... May 22 2011, 11:52 AM
swl
2. After running for about 2 minutes (cold?) the ... May 23 2011, 06:38 AM
r_towle wiring...
ohm your FI harness to verify you dont h... May 24 2011, 10:43 AM
FlatSix In trying to test the CHT white harness wire it br... May 24 2011, 11:15 AM
r_towle Jeff Bowlsby makes complete new FI harness setups.... May 24 2011, 11:21 AM
FlatSix I'm thinking a new harness would be the most r... May 24 2011, 01:31 PM
Rockaria has anyone mentioned checking the ignition switch.... May 24 2011, 09:51 PM
FlatSix Christopher,
Having thought about this a bit now, ... May 26 2011, 04:10 AM
porscheless
Christopher,
Having thought about this a bit now,... May 26 2011, 06:15 AM
McMark Joe, some pictures of the box and part would be ex... May 26 2011, 10:53 AM
r_towle
Joe, some pictures of the box and part would be e... May 26 2011, 02:56 PM
porscheless Here it is! It is for a 76, which I think goe... May 26 2011, 03:50 PM
FlatSix That photo was just too much for me. I've just... May 27 2011, 02:34 AM
SLITS 3 different switches
'69 - mid '72 .... h... May 27 2011, 07:01 AM
FlatSix I ordered the same part number as in the picture. ... May 27 2011, 10:31 AM
KELTY360 This link will take you through it step by step.
... May 27 2011, 11:02 AM
r_towle your at the wrong end ,,,,
Remove the plastic col... May 27 2011, 11:10 AM
FlatSix The Pelican article was good but a little vauge fo... May 27 2011, 12:23 PM
FlatSix The good news is that the old switch was cracked.
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