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> brake trouble, front brakes lock when hot
trfrick
post Jun 21 2011, 10:26 PM
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I need some help - I replace the front rotors, calipers, pad, flex line and m/c. Now when I went for a test drive after several hard stops the front brakes get hot and lock up.
After they cool they release.

What should look for?

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trfrick
post Jun 25 2011, 10:22 AM
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The MC was replaced about two months prior to the rest of the parts and was working well.

I have plenty of free play/ with the brake pedal until the brakes heat up the it goes away. Shouldn't the excess fluid go back to the reservoir?

I plan on changing the fluid again to see if any "crap" comes out since it does not appear the brakes were well maintained over the last 40 years.
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post Jun 25 2011, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(trfrick @ Jun 25 2011, 09:22 AM) *

The MC was replaced about two months prior to the rest of the parts and was working well.

I have plenty of free play/ with the brake pedal until the brakes heat up the it goes away. Shouldn't the excess fluid go back to the reservoir?




Yes, but only if the MC port is uncovered. . . if the port is covered, then the brakes get hot, warm the brake fluid, the fluid expands it has no where to go so it pushed the MC piston back and that takes up all the freeplay. . when the freeplay is gone the ever expanding fluid forces the caliper pistons out and the brakes press even harder on the rotors, they get hotter. . Get the loop your in ?? it just gets worse till the wheel lock up. .

Go back to the "see if you can pry back a pad" thing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
. you should / you want to see the fluid rise in the reservoir . that's the only sure sign the port is uncovered because prying back one pad will also force the other front pads to expand. . . make sure the fluid really is going to the reservoir. .

So the only thing new is the calipers and pads?? So are the calipers direct replacements, or did you do some kind of swap or upgrade ?? If the MC was working fine before, it would seem something is amiss in the wheels. . but both at the same time is questionable. still seems like a MC problem from afar. .

Doesn't your master cylinder have a warning sensor, screwed into the side with a couple of brown wires?? those wires go to the idiot light on the dash i.e. same light as the handbrake warning light. . . that's also the warning light that the piston is not in the middle of the master cylinder on dual circuit master cylinders , hence a problem / leak in the front or rear systems. . .

Another item to look at, If the brakes are getting hot enough to lock the wheels over and over, I gotta think you've got all kinds of air in the calipers by now. .
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trfrick   brake trouble   Jun 21 2011, 10:26 PM
jcd914   I would start by checking that the brake pedal is ...   Jun 21 2011, 10:30 PM
trfrick   I would start by checking that the brake pedal is...   Jun 22 2011, 09:21 AM
McMark   Good call, Jim! :thumbsup:   Jun 21 2011, 10:34 PM
jcd914   Experience is a teacher you remember!   Jun 22 2011, 12:05 AM
ldsgeek   Experience is a teacher you remember! Yeah,...   Jun 22 2011, 07:46 AM
Eric_Shea   Where'd ya get the crappy rebuilt calipers? :h...   Jun 22 2011, 09:43 AM
trfrick   Thanks Eric - I don't think it is the person w...   Jun 22 2011, 10:18 AM
r_towle   It almost sounds like one of your knockback mecha...   Jun 22 2011, 10:38 AM
Eric_Shea   I'll grab PDF's from the factory manual ...   Jun 22 2011, 01:36 PM
Eric_Shea   Here's the file... the clearance number I spew...   Jun 23 2011, 12:06 AM
trfrick   OK - I have no clearance between either pad and th...   Jun 23 2011, 03:18 PM
Eric_Shea   That can be normal for the first few miles on new ...   Jun 23 2011, 03:33 PM
r_towle   cool, So this knock back device....it rackets up ...   Jun 23 2011, 03:37 PM
Eric_Shea   Si... we press pistons back in with an Arbor pre...   Jun 23 2011, 03:58 PM
trfrick   I loosend the spindle nut as you said and reinstal...   Jun 24 2011, 04:08 PM
toolguy   The bad part is you replaced a whole bunch of stuf...   Jun 24 2011, 06:24 PM
trfrick   The MC was replaced about two months prior to the ...   Jun 25 2011, 10:22 AM
toolguy   The MC was replaced about two months prior to the...   Jun 25 2011, 04:47 PM
PRS914-6   Is the vent on the M/C reservoir plugged ? There ...   Jun 25 2011, 01:04 PM
trfrick   Problem resolved!!! It was a combinat...   Jun 25 2011, 07:08 PM


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