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| McMark |
Nov 28 2010, 12:20 PM
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,180 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
I'm got a tubing bender to make a replica GT half cage for a customer car. This is the style of bolt in cage used on some of the GT cars pictured on Armando's AWESOME GT site, as well as the style used in the PMB GT.
Material is mandrel bent 1.75" DOM 0.95", notched and will be completely welded. Plates are laser cut steel, ensuring they look great and fit perfectly. You will be required to weld the provided receiver plates onto your longs. These cages will keep the seats from moving all the way back because of the center brace bars. I have some ideas that will adapt the cage to work better with stock seats. PM me for details. Also, these cages will obviously not work with a stock backpad, nor the door handle/pocket. Each cage will be $xxx in bare steel, with powdercoating available. Shipping is possible, we're probably looking at crate and freight shipping, which should be around $175 (give or take $25). Cages are built to order. --Optional Item 1-- Leave off the two bars going to the center hump. This would let you keep the backpad and knock $xxx off the price. --Optional Item 2-- Leave off the forward/door bars. These add a lot of rigidity, but make getting in and out of the car harder. Leave these off and knock $xx off the price. Custom alterations are also available at full shop rate of $125/hr for actual time spent beyond the building of the standard cage. These cages are now special order. Contact me for details. ![]() Installation Info: 1. Use a jack on both sides of the car, in the middle of car (between the wheels) with slight pressure simply to counteract the weight of the car. If you think about the way the weight is distributed, it's split between four wheels roughly equally. You're using the jack to try and distribute the weight six ways evenly. If you lift too much in the middle, you're changing the bias. This is not an exact science or setting. You just have to use your best judgement. 2. Test and measure the door gaps and opening closing effort before and during the welding process. Also measure between the targa bar and the windshield hoop, using the attached picture. Anything within 2-3mm is considered correct. But keep checking that measurement as you weld to make sure things aren't moving. 3. Do not run a bead longer than 1" ever on any joint. Long continuous welds are how cars get warped. 4. If you're using the bolt-in setup, weld the base plates in while they are bolted to the cage. Welding the base plates with the cage fully assembled ensures that everything lines up. 5. Get the cage to sit correctly, fully assembled, before fully welding a single piece. You cannot adjust things as you go. Get them all lined up, sitting flat, etc before you start permanently attaching things. 6. Tack weld the forward bars to the main hoop first, but fully weld the rear bottom plates first. Then weld the forward bottom plates and the forward bars to the main hoop at the same time. A little weld on each bottom plate, a little weld on the forward bar joint, then a little time to let things cool off. Then repeat. 7. Leave time for welds to cool completely between steps. This can seem long and tedious and it's REALLY hard to slow down and take your time. Ideally you'll have 30m of welding time spread out over 1.5-2h. More cooling time reduces the risk of warping the car and you can't let it cool too much. The times I just mentioned allow the welds to cool at the rate of 2-3m cooling for each minute of welding time. 8. Read #5 again. Good installs require good prep. The quality and success of your install ALL happens before you pick up the welder. Good luck. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) Attached image(s)
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| Rand |
Dec 1 2010, 11:20 PM
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Cross Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,413 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
Seems like adding a short tube, elbow to crotch, would make a big difference in that example. The bend with no support is sketchy. Wait, the more I look at that, the more it bugs me. The bend is bad. It would be better to make the side tube straight and connect it lower to the rollbar than bend it like that. Ugh, we are venturing outside best design standards. Bends are for hoops. Tubes between pillars should be straight and triangulate. Hey I'm a poet and don't know it.
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| 0396 |
Jun 26 2011, 11:15 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,046 Joined: 13-October 03 From: L.A. Calif Member No.: 1,245 Region Association: Southern California |
Seems like adding a short tube, elbow to crotch, would make a big difference in that example. The bend with no support is sketchy. Wait, the more I look at that, the more it bugs me. The bend is bad. It would be better to make the side tube straight and connect it lower to the rollbar than bend it like that. Ugh, we are venturing outside best design standards. Bends are for hoops. Tubes between pillars should be straight and triangulate. Hey I'm a poet and don't know it. I asked Dennis at Assco Racing about the same thing years ago and he mention the same thing- "side tube straight and connect it lower to the rollbar than bend it" Also when I mentioned OK..But can you build me one anyway? His response was NO – it’s too much liability… in a racing environment For the street- a great looking product- good luck with your project! |
McMark New GT Half Cage Nov 28 2010, 12:20 PM
pete-stevers looks great!!! Nov 28 2010, 01:07 PM
Mark Henry If you also offered this raw without the brace bar... Nov 28 2010, 01:16 PM
Eric_Shea I'll give testimony. When this cage is bolted... Nov 28 2010, 01:30 PM
Zimms
I'll give testimony. When this cage is bolte... Nov 28 2010, 08:13 PM
SirAndy How much of a pain in the ass is it to get in and ... Nov 28 2010, 08:22 PM
Zimms
How much of a pain in the ass is it to get in and... Nov 29 2010, 05:33 AM
Brett W Mark, you may want to check on a waiver or certs f... Nov 28 2010, 02:31 PM
McMark This would include scab plates and all hardware. ... Nov 28 2010, 02:58 PM
Maltese Falcon
McMark, if you get to where you need a small prod... Nov 28 2010, 07:49 PM
JmuRiz Could/would you make one with the angled side-bars... Nov 28 2010, 03:49 PM
McMark
Could/would you make one with the angled side-bar... Nov 28 2010, 08:23 PM
mepstein Everything I have heard says you shouldn't use... Nov 28 2010, 03:52 PM
Racer Chris It's really a roll bar, not a cage. None of th... Nov 28 2010, 04:01 PM
Randal
It's really a roll bar, not a cage. None of t... Nov 28 2010, 04:23 PM
URY914 Shipping the side bars loose would be a good thing... Nov 28 2010, 04:27 PM
Racer Chris
No box required.
FedEx and UPS have a hefty sur... Nov 28 2010, 05:32 PM
RobW :headbanger: :woohoo: :idea: Nov 28 2010, 05:36 PM
ONTHEGRIND Do I get a napa valley discount if so Im in.. Nov 28 2010, 06:26 PM
plymouth37 Looks great! Nov 28 2010, 07:37 PM
9146BRUCE Hi Mark if the setup you will make is like the one... Nov 28 2010, 07:43 PM
McMark Bruce, you have a PM! :D
I need one more per... Nov 28 2010, 08:00 PM
moparrob Awesome! Good luck with it. :beer1: Nov 28 2010, 08:13 PM
ConeDodger Mark,
Get a hold of Elliot Cannon. His door bar in... Nov 28 2010, 08:24 PM
jmill Looks bada$$. :wub: Nov 28 2010, 08:57 PM
rick 918-S Nice idea Mark. The GT bar is a nice looking desig... Nov 28 2010, 09:50 PM
ottox914 McMark: waddya think of this? The 914T currently... Nov 28 2010, 10:30 PM
McMark Dave,
I think the cross-bar under the seats is of... Nov 28 2010, 11:44 PM
zx-niner Does it require use of a racing harness in place o... Nov 28 2010, 10:33 PM
McMark No, you can use any belts you wish. Nov 28 2010, 11:32 PM
Elliot Cannon I have no idea where the hardware for this came fr... Nov 29 2010, 12:54 AM
914 shifter
I have no idea where the hardware for this came f... Nov 30 2010, 04:59 PM
race914 Hi McMark,
Thanks so much for reproducing these. ... Nov 29 2010, 09:48 AM
McMark I think in this case, if all-inclusive safety is y... Nov 29 2010, 12:31 PM
jt914-6 That looks a whole lot like a Safety Devices bolt ... Nov 29 2010, 12:50 PM
McMark :blink: Looks pretty different to me...
http://w... Nov 29 2010, 12:53 PM
jt914-6 The one I had was from the mid 90's. They may ... Nov 29 2010, 01:04 PM
McMark :beer2: Nov 29 2010, 01:05 PM
Brett W SCCA requires a full diagonal to run from the top ... Nov 29 2010, 01:08 PM
Eric_Shea I don't recommend any further stiffening kits ... Nov 29 2010, 02:41 PM
jt914-6 Here's the way mine was done. Instead of the f... Nov 29 2010, 02:48 PM
brant The safety devices company have a couple of differ... Nov 29 2010, 04:30 PM
Madswede
buy a different seat if you need head room
the ul... Nov 30 2010, 02:25 PM
carr914 I don't believe that Safety Devices is still m... Nov 29 2010, 06:10 PM
Van914 I have the Safety Devices Cage in mine. It has the... Nov 30 2010, 09:54 AM
carr914
I have the Safety Devices Cage in mine. It has th... Nov 30 2010, 06:44 PM
Porcharu I want one and I can pick it up the next time up i... Nov 30 2010, 07:15 PM
ottox914 Highly interested, I'll be giving you a call t... Nov 30 2010, 08:22 PM
Lou W Mark, your idea for the roll cage looks awesome. M... Dec 1 2010, 10:37 PM
McMark A bar like that would be do-able. It'll lose ... Dec 1 2010, 10:47 PM
SirAndy
Seems like adding a short tube, elbow to crotch, ... Dec 2 2010, 12:03 PM

Randal
Seems like adding a short tube, elbow to crotch,... Apr 10 2012, 09:52 AM
Lou W
Seems like adding a short tube, elbow to crotch, ... Dec 2 2010, 12:12 PM
Rand Bingo. Dec 2 2010, 12:46 PM
jgara962 :drooley: if I wasn't in massive debt from the... Dec 2 2010, 01:25 PM
McMark Can't you add a new cage to your home loan? :... Dec 2 2010, 01:45 PM
McMark Material for three cages ordered today for deliver... Dec 3 2010, 05:58 PM
J P Stein Note the back-up for the door bars. I see some wit... Dec 5 2010, 12:13 PM
TROJANMAN I'd order one, but I think I am going to wait ... Dec 6 2010, 05:07 PM
bcaschera Could this work to replace my "missing" ... Dec 11 2010, 01:35 AM
McMark It would be better than nothing. B) Dec 11 2010, 05:09 PM
turboman808 Wow that looks fantastic. I have been putting off... Dec 17 2010, 02:12 PM
racerbvd How is this project progressing??? Jun 26 2011, 10:16 AM
9146BRUCE Hi Mark
How is the half cage going.
Bruce Aug 16 2011, 03:06 PM
malaga_red75
Hi Mark
How is the half cage going.
Bruce
I... Aug 16 2011, 06:25 PM
carr914 Certainly not a Hijack, but if someone buys a McMa... Aug 16 2011, 04:17 PM
9146BRUCE Well I gave mark the money in November for one, I ... Aug 17 2011, 11:33 AM
treborzerimar emailed Mark asking if I could stop in to introduc... Aug 21 2011, 10:46 AM
9146BRUCE Hi Mark whats the story on the half cage.
Bruce Oct 4 2011, 01:58 PM
wndsrfr Mark.....any update on the GT half cage? I'm ... Dec 2 2011, 09:16 AM
McMark Sent a PM. Not sure what happened to the other PM... Oct 4 2011, 02:10 PM
racerbvd I would still love to trade for one :beer1: Oct 4 2011, 02:28 PM
9146BRUCE Hi Mark I have 2 weeks off a xmas I was wondering ... Dec 3 2011, 10:57 PM
McMark Yup, getting them all built this month now that I... Dec 3 2011, 11:16 PM
Vysoc Mark,
When you get them going, I am very interes... Dec 4 2011, 06:39 AM
9146BRUCE Hi Mark I was wondering if I can come up and pick ... Dec 14 2011, 06:45 PM
Zimms :bump:
Any updates? Jan 18 2012, 09:23 AM
ConeDodger
:bump:
Any updates?
Actually, Mark was buildi... Jan 18 2012, 09:04 PM
SirAndy :bump:
Any updates?
Actually, Mark was buildin... Jan 18 2012, 09:16 PM
ConeDodger Did it look like this?
(stolen from the Original... Jan 18 2012, 09:21 PM
SirAndy Did it look like this?
Maybe ... :evilgrin: Jan 18 2012, 09:41 PM
Zimms Cool! Thanks for posting pix! Jan 19 2012, 05:29 AM
ConeDodger
Cool! Thanks for posting pix!
Hold on n... Jan 19 2012, 08:17 AM
Elliot Cannon I think that damn Japanese car has contaminated hi... Jan 19 2012, 12:01 PM
ConeDodger
I think that damn Japanese car has contaminated h... Jan 19 2012, 02:54 PM
shuie Damn, I wish I had seen this thread when the pre-o... Feb 11 2012, 06:18 PM
ConeDodger
Damn, I wish I had seen this thread when the pre-... Feb 11 2012, 11:20 PM
Zimms UPS stopped by!
:Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl: Mar 8 2012, 02:21 PM
racerbvd
UPS stopped by!
:Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl:
... Mar 8 2012, 06:39 PM
Garold Shaffer
UPS stopped by!
:Qarl: :Qarl: :Qarl:
... Mar 9 2012, 09:57 AM
McMark Looks like they tried to lose one of the down-bars... Mar 9 2012, 12:06 AM
Zimms Between the plastic wrap and the ties, it stayed, ... Mar 9 2012, 08:01 AM
Aaron Cox These look fantastic mark! Mar 9 2012, 09:25 AM
Aaron Cox Mark,
Do you have any pics of your hoop installed... Mar 23 2012, 02:04 PM
jhadler Looks really great! Has anyone confirmed if th... Mar 23 2012, 02:50 PM
Racer Chris
...Has anyone confirmed if this design would meet... Mar 23 2012, 05:49 PM
ChrisNPDrider :beer2:
can't wait to see instal pics
:beer2... Mar 23 2012, 03:16 PM
JamesM Are you still making these? After taking another ... Apr 18 2013, 04:24 PM![]() ![]() |
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